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Hi

I am have been trying to find some relatives on the 1911 Census but cannot seem to - I am not sure whether perhaps the name has not been transcribed correctly hence the reason why I can't find them.

They are Joseph Eschbacher (born 1868 Poplar) and his wife Ellen (born 1871 in Romford)

Any help gratefully received.

Thanks

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1911
Different wife, but thought I would show you


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ESCHBACHER, Joseph Philip Head Married M 43 1868 Naval Pensioner Electrical Old Ford London VIEW
ESCHBACHER, Louisa Frances Wife Married
2 years F 37 1874 Slough Bucks VIEW
ESCHBACHER, Phillip Bernard Son M 1 1910 Southwark London VIEW
ESCHBACHER, Joseph Henry Son M 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Northfleet Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3836 Reference:
RG14PN3836 RG78PN146 RD45 SD1 ED3 SN108

Registration District:
Strood Sub District:
Northfleet Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Northfleet

Address:
3 Hamerton Road Northfleet

Regards Vera

Snap Vera , that is the only one I could find also. They have only been married 2 years so I wondered if it was a second marriage

The joseph I found on the 1911 with wife Louise is not correct.

Regards Vera

Marriages Sep 1888 (>99%)
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ESCHBACHER Joseph Romford 4a 351

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Marriages Dec 1908 (>99%)
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ESCHBACHER Joseph Philip Lambeth 1d 807


I am presuming the marriage in 1888 is the correct one......

Regards Vera

Hi Vera

Yes that is him - didn't realise that Ellen had died.

Thanks for your help

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on the 1901 when Joseph is married to Ellen his occupation is boatman / coast guard so maybe is the same man

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ESCHBACHER, Joseph Head Married M 33 1868 Boatman Coast Guard
Stratford
Essex VIEW
ESCHBACHER, Ellen Wife Married F 29 1872
Romford
Essex VIEW
SMYTHE, Nellie Niece Single F 2 1899
Romford
Essex VIEW

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Piece:
857 Folio:
45 Page:
7 Registration District:
Romney Marsh

Civil Parish:
Lydd Municipal Borough:
Address:
2, Battery, East Bay, Lydd County:
Kent

Hi GB Could have been second marriage .....only the middle name makes me wonder .

Regards Vera

Hi Middy,

Not 100% sure it is your Joseph....will see if I can find a death for Ellen.

Regards Vera

Hi Vera

Have had a look for a death for Ellen but can't seem to find one - I think it is the same Joseph (year and place add up)

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Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
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ESCHBACHER Joseph Philip Poplar 1c 608



Still cannot find a death for Ellen, but think it is the right one...

Regards Vera

Me neither Vera - so frustrating at times

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Dont know if this is any help but
Probate
Eschbacher Joseph Philip of 21, St Albans Ave East Ham Essex died 25th February 1929. Probate London 20th March Louisa Frances Eschbacher widow. Effects £685 6s 5d.

A Joseph Philip Eschbacher married Louisa Frances Stevenson Oct/Dec quarter 1908 in Lambeth 1d 807

Hi Joan

Thanks - I will take a look at

x

I wonder if Elle also remarried ??

there is this marriage with a female missing

Marriages Mar 1908
Gardiner Dorothy Muriel Romford 4a 466
HARRIS James Charles Romford 4a 466
>>UNDERWOOD William Romford 4a 466

and then a death:

Name: Ellen Underwood
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1940
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 272

1911

Address: 17 Gladwell Road Burnt Ash Lane Bromley Kent
County: Kent

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
UNDERWOOD, William Head Married M 38 1873 Kennelman Winchester Hant
>>UNDERWOOD, Ellen Wife Married F 39 1872 Romford Essex
>>SMYTHE, Nellie Niece F 11 1900 School Romford Essex
ROSE, Daisy Visitor Married F 21 1890 Bexley Heath Kent
THOMTON, Frank Visitor M 5 1906 Barrow in Furness Lane

Just found this on ancestry member submitted

Ellen Woolley born 1872 Romford Essex
Marriage Sept 1888
Death Oct 1940 Woolwich London
Parent Thomas Wooley Sophia Fairman
Spouse Joseph Philip Eschbacher

If this is right then she didn't die until after him

Divorce
1907
from Joseph Phillip ESCHBACHER
Description
Petitioned Joseph ESCHBACHER, co-respondant William UNDERWOOD

Divorce of Joseph & Ellen ESCHBACHER (née WOOLLEY)

Item reference J 77/912/7719 Divorce Court File: 7719. Appellant: Joseph Eschbacher. Respondent: Ellen Eschbacher. Co-respondent: William Underwood. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd]. ... Record Summary Scope and content Divorce Court File: 7719. Appellant: Joseph Eschbacher. Respondent: Ellen Eschbacher. Co-respondent: William Underwood. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd]. Covering dates 1907 Held by The National Archives, Kew Legal status Public Record(s) Language English www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Good Find RB....so that is what happened.

Regards Vera

Hi Rutland Belle

Sorry I have only just seen your messages. You are a proper detective, I am gobsmacked I would never have been able to find this.

Thank you so much - and thanks to Vera as well for looking

Thanks

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