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1891 census lookup please.

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Helen

Helen Report 21 Mar 2012 14:49

many thanks mgny for all the info, very interesting. Helen.

mgnv

mgnv Report 21 Mar 2012 13:24

Helen - while you're checking out the grave, do a search for 2 of his kids - John Mark Simpkin and Grace Anderson.

You should search at:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES

Specifically, Cook/IL Ms, Salt Lake/UT BMDs, OR BMDs WI Bs (there's an unnamed Stryker who turns out to be John), WA Ds. Some have free images - you might have to do a free rego first.

Here's the US censuses:
[Magnify 4 clicks, then save image]
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu999unit#page/n514/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu999unit#page/n516/mode/1up
[enumerated again next day]
http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1606unit#page/n266/mode/1up
UT http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1867unit#page/n470/mode/1up
CA http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu116unit#page/n847/mode/1up
[addy=409 Wishire Blvd, Santa Monica - census looks like a 2 storey apt bldg]
http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel174#page/n1161/mode/1up
[addy=1341 Stanford St, Santa Monica - widower]

kids & spouses
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1863unit#page/n1028/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1865unit#page/n1178/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1866unit#page/n202/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel182#page/n488/mode/1up
[addy=1802 W 1st St, Santa Ana CA]
http://www.archive.org/stream/15thcensus1942unit#page/n162/mode/1up
[so now we know why Peter was in Marshfield OR in Aug 1930]
http://www.archive.org/stream/15thcensus2418unit#page/n505/mode/1up

http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po222unit#page/n771/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1251unit#page/n734/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/populationschedu0395wash#page/n349/mode/1up
[so Julia was d/o a preacher]
http://www.archive.org/stream/10thcensus0349unit#page/n408/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu293unit#page/n476/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/populationschedu0291unit#page/n346/mode/1up
[note next door is Frank Kimball - Kate's uncle,maybe]
http://www.archive.org/stream/10thcensus0260unit#page/n596/mode/1up
http://www.archive.org/stream/12thcensusofpopu1842unit#page/n38/mode/1up
[didn't find girls - just Mark & Ralph - I presume a marr sis lives at 1661 N Troy St, Cicago]


You'll see Peter and Kate were wed by a Wesleyan pastor, and his 2nd wife, Julia, was the daur of a preacher.

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 20:20

Thanks safc I have just looked at the grave of Peter.Helen.

safc

safc Report 20 Mar 2012 20:16

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
SIMPKIN Elizabeth Atherton Pemberton Wigan & Leigh MOLYNEUX PEM/38/121

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 20:08

many thanks safc for the grave info and to Christine, yes he could be remembering his sister.Helen.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 20 Mar 2012 20:03

Do you think he adopted Atherton as his middle name to remember a baby sister by?


Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
Simpkin Elizabeth Atherton Wigan 8c 112

Deaths Mar 1878 (>99%)
Simpkin Elizabeth Atherton 0 Wigan 8c 79


Baptisms: 2 Aug 1877 St Matthew, Highfield, Pemberton, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Atherton Simpkin - Child of Joseph Simpkin & Alice
Abode: Highfield, Pemberton
Occupation: Underlooker at Colliery
Baptised by: Thomas Evans
Register: Baptisms 1873 - 1889, Page 26, Entry 202
Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

safc

safc Report 20 Mar 2012 20:01

Name: Peter Athera Simpkin
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 05 Aug 1930
Burial Place:
Death Date: 01 Aug 1930
Death Place: Marshfield, Coos, Oregon
Age: 64
Birth Date: 02 May 1866
Birthplace: England
Occupation: Clergyman
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: J. W. Simpkin
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Name: Unknown
Mother's Birthplace: England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B58012-3
System Origin: Utah-EASy
Source Film Number: 26565
Reference Number: 1334

jax

jax Report 20 Mar 2012 19:54

Yes I can see his birth...it was the Atherton bit I was asking about

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 19:53

Many thanks Jax for all your help, really interesting info, sounds as if he married twice. Helen.

safc

safc Report 20 Mar 2012 19:52

from find a grave


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=simpkin&GSfn=peter&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1930&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=172483&df=all&

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 19:49

Jax, he is on Lancs BMD births, 1866 Pemberton district mother Molyneux , but it just says Peter Simpkin. Helen.

jax

jax Report 20 Mar 2012 19:47

Utah Cemetery Inventory
about Peter Atherton Simpkin Name: Peter Atherton Simpkin
Burial Date: 5 August 1930
Cemetery: Mount Olivet Cemetery
Source: Sexton Records / Grant
Grave Location: R_16_8F

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Mar 2012 19:44

Shame that the 1890 US census is damaged/destroyed.

Maureen

jax

jax Report 20 Mar 2012 19:43

1910 United States Federal Census
about Peter A Simpkins Name: Peter A Simpkins
Age in 1910: 43
Birth Year: 1867
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Salt Lake City Ward 1, Salt Lake, Utah
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Kate M Simpkins
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter A Simpkins 43
Kate M Simpkins 42
Grace Alice Simpkins 18
Joseph W Simpkins 17
John M Simpkins 15



1920 United States Federal Census
about Peter A Simpkin Name: Peter A Simpkin
Age: 53
Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: England
Home in 1920: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1888
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Julia B Simpkin
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: France
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter A Simpkin 53
Julia B Simpkin 45


?? Different wife

Also says his mother was French? French sounding name so perhaps he just assumed?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Mar 2012 19:43

No-I can't but on his Naturalization records(1920) he says he was born May 28th 1866 in Pemberton. Probably just threw the Atherton in there to make his name sound a little posher!


Maureen

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 19:42

Thank yoy Jax ,thats really interesting as Peter's uncle was a Wesleyan Methodist Local Preacher, so perhaps he went to USA with the Methodist Church. Helen.

jax

jax Report 20 Mar 2012 19:38

He was a Clergyman and had been in the states since 1888

Cannot see a birth for a Peter Atherton Simpkin ...can anyone else?

Helen

Helen Report 20 Mar 2012 19:33

Thank you Maureen, I personally think it is the same person, do you know his occupation? Helen.

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 20 Mar 2012 19:25

Thanks,jax. Darned computer keeps crashing!

So do we think it's the same person??

Maureen

jax

jax Report 20 Mar 2012 19:17

Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
about Peter Atherton Simpkin Name: Peter Atherton Simpkin
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1866
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1890
Spouse Name: Kate Maria Stryker
Spouse Age: 23
Spouse Gender: Female
FHL Film Number: 1030192