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I am at a brick wall and not sure where to go next. I have purchased the marriage cert of a relative whom i know to be Samuel Thompson and his wife Sarah Ann Gosling in holbeach in 1916 (this is the area associated with this family to my knowledge) From his age at marriage i know he was born around 1888. His father is listed as James Thompson, deceased. The trouble is i cannot find samuel, there are too many options coming up on Ancestry and none of them is obviously the samuel i am looking for. There may be a possibilty of a Durham, Norwich connection. I feel that should be enough info to get me going but just cant think how. Can anyone help me work out a next step?

What is shown as Samuel's occupation at marriage ?

Gwyn

Hello Flicky - what was Samuel's occupation on his marriage certificate? Did it give an address for him?

Were the witnesses possible family members?

These might give us a clue ....

Hello there, samuel was a farm labourer from dawesmere and his fathers previous occupation was the same. The witnesses were charles henry gosling (brides father) and an Ethel (perhaps as first name hard to read) Jeffery. The church is at Gedney Drove End
Thanks for your questions :)

Do you have this possible birth?

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Thompson Reginald N Gosling Holbeach 7a 686

from freebmd

Do you know when /where Samuel died? it might help with his age

Hi lolly yes that is their son :) jan i believe samuel died in dec 1961 in east elloe

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: THOMPSON, Samuel
Registration district: East Elloe
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1961
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 78
Volume no: 3B
Page no: 39

So if age at death correct - born 1882/3

This looks like his death:-

Name: THOMPSON, Samuel
Registration district: East Elloe
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1961
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death:78
Volume no: 3B
Page no: 39

This age at death (if it's correct would put his birth at around 1883).

Kath. x

Possible birth:-

Name: THOMPSON, Samuel
Registration district: Caistor
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1882
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 7A
Page no:690

Kath. x

??? James a Cattleman on Farm as was Samuel. Dob for Samuel possibly out. Maybe the Norwich connection. One son Ernest possibly emigratedto Canada then the USA.

1901 England Census
about Samuel Thompson Name: Samuel Thompson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Thompson
Mother's Name: Sarah Thompson
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Ryburgh, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Little Ryburgh
Ecclesiastical parish: Great Ryburgh All Saints and Great Ryburgh St Andrew
Town: Little Ryburgh
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England


Registration district: Walsingham
Sub-registration district: Fakenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Piece: 1876
Folio: 166
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
James Thompson 44
Sarah Thompson 42
George Thompson 18
Samuel Thompson 17
James Thompson 15
Sarah Thompson 13
Sidney Thompson 7
Fred Thompson 4
Ernest Thompson 3
Walter Thompson 2
Alfred Thompson 2 Months

Vera

Maybe be worth keeping/ has farming and Norwich connection also James as father of Samuel.???????

Clutching at straws here!!



THOMPSON, James Head Married M 44 1857 Cattleman On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1859
Swanton Novers
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, George Son Single M 18 1883 Iron Moulder
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Samuel Son Single M 17 1884 Cattleman On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, James Son Single M 15 1886 Teamster On Farm
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1888
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Sidney Son Single M 7 1894
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Fred Son Single M 4 1897
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Ernest Son Single M 3 1898
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Walter Son Single M 2 1899
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW
THOMPSON, Alfred Son Single M 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Lt Ryburgh
Norfolk VIEW

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Piece:
1876 Folio:
166 Page:
19 Registration District:
Walsingham

Civil Parish:
Stibbard Municipal Borough:
Address:
The Street, Stibbard, Little Ryburgh County:
Norfolk

Hi kath , oh dear, i think i may have the wrong death then because.according to his marriage cert it would make his birth about 1888. Getting myself all tied up with this one!

Ann and vera, i have come across that link earlier tonight too. It cold be a strong contender but i feel i think at the moment i dint have the evidence to know for certain- i will take another look at that one though since we have all thought it a possibility! Im sure its possible that his birth date is not correct on the census too. Thank you ladies :)

People often tell lies about their age on marriage certificates so I would take that with a pinch of salt.

However if the Norfolk born Samuel found by Vera and Ann is the correct one then his year of birth is around 1883/1884.

Kath. x

Possible kath as his bride was 6 years younger than him already with the birth he gave. They are proving an elusive family to research!

If the family stayed in the same area of Norfolk, then they are shown in the Walsingham RD in 1891 and 1901. The birth to go with that could be
Samuel Thompson Walsingham, Norfolk Mar Qtr 1884 4B 309.He would appear to be the only Samuel Thompson b 1885 =/- 5 years in Norfolk to appear on the 1891 census

Thanks stuart, i will look into that alongside the fact that james died pre 1916 and see what else i can find

This looks like the family from the 901 census but there is no Samuel with them:-

THOMPSON, Sarah Ann Head Widow F 51 1860 Swanton Novers Norfolk
THOMPSON, James Son Single M 25 1886 Carter Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Sidney Son Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Fred Son Single M 14 1897 Railway Porter Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Ernest Son Single M 13 1898 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Walter Son Single M 11 1900 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk
THOMPSON, Edith Daughter Single F 8 1903 School Little Ryburgh Norfolk

Address:
Stibbard Guist Norfolk

Reference:
RG14PN11553 RG78PN634 RD233 SD1 ED8 SN142

Kath. x

Samuel and older brother George in 1911?
1911 census transcription details for: Hempton Fakenham Norfolk

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN11550 RG78PN634 RD233 SD1 ED5 SN120


Reg. District: Walsingham Sub District: Fakenham
Parish: Hempton Enum. District: 5
Address: Hempton Fakenham Norfolk
County: Norfolk

Name Relation Condition/Yrs married Sex Age BirthYear Occupation Where Born
THOMPSON, Samuel No Head House Single M 22 1889 Dredgers Stibbard Norfolk
THOMPSON, George No Head House Single M 24 1887 Dredgers Stibbard Norfolk
BAILY, Charles No Head House Single M 21 1890 Dredgers East Harling Norfolk