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If we are on the right track..........and this is Susan and John's marriage.........then she should appear in 1861 as Smith.

Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)

Smith Susan Shoreditch 1c 361
Wells John Shoreditch 1c 361

In the 1871....Susan's daughter Mary is Born 1860 Shorditch.

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1861 England Census
about Susan Smith
Name: Susan Smith
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Walthan Stowe, Essex, England

Civil parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 156
Folio: 151
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Bouchard 28
S Bouchard 24
I Bouchard 6
Susan Smith 31 (Unmarried) Dress Maker
M S W Smith 1 (Daughter)....The "W" is a Ditto for Smith (Shorditch)

don't think that 'W' is a ditto for Smith ?


Births Sep 1859 (>99%)
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SMITH Mary Sarah Wells Shoreditch 1c 154

Yes you are right Choccy...

as in M S W Ditto for Smith

Not that this helps..........BROTHER on the image

1861 England Census
about John Wells
Name: John Wells
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Wells
Mother's Name: Eliza Wells
Where born: Huntingdonshire, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: Haggerston St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerstone West
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 180
Piece: 245
Folio: 148
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Wells 36
Eliza Wells 32
Charles Wells 11
Eliza Wells 6
Thomas Wells 4
Michael Wells 3
John Wells 30>>>>>Brother...Cabinet Maker

I keep getting the Error message. :-|

Error message here too ...


what about this?

Births Dec 1852 (>99%)
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Smith Agnes Beere Shoreditch 1c 201



?? perhaps why she thought she was born in Walthamstow

1861

1861 England Census 1861 England Census
Name: Agnes Smith
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1061
Folio: 9
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Smith 68
>>>>>Agnes Smith 8
John Spikens 2



Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 1061; Folio: 9; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542745.

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I wonder if this is where she picked up her culinary skills.

Obviously a vey wealthy family.

1871 England Census
about Agnes Smith
Name: Agnes Smith
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Wylthamslow, Essex, England
Civil parish: Ayot St Lawrence
Town: Ayot St Lawrence
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hatfield
Sub-registration district: Welwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 1375
Folio: 59
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Pheobe Brown 49
Pheobe Brown 23
Dunsan Brown 21
William Edward Brown 19
Margaret Emily Brown 15
Francis Dixon Brown 13
Annie Maria Argles 29 (Governess)
Louis De Lobez 53 (Butler)
Rebecca Sunas 38
Dorothy Fenton Speed 42
Ann Griffith 39
Harriet Collins 22
Agnes Smith 18 >>>> Kitchenmaid
Mary Jannetty 21
Caroline Cobb 20
Emma Knight 18
Samuil Brampton Webb 10
Charles Clark
James Bunce 18

(Res: Mansion House)

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Susan Wells
Name: Susan Wells
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883
Age at Death: [56]6
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 286


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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about John Wells
Name: John Wells
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1897
Age at Death: 66
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 272

John Wells remarried after the death of Susan...


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about John Wells
Name: John Wells (Cabinet Maker) Widower
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Spouse Name: Susannah Amelia Zeeck Widow
Spouse Age: 46
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Oct 1886
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Thomas Wells (Paper Maker) Deceased
Spouse Father Name: William Bolton (Tailor) Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Arthur Alexander Zeeck and Ada Martha Wells

Ada Martha Wells the "Sister in Law" who is with Agnes in the 1891 census!

1891 England Census
about John Wills
Name: John Wills
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Wills
Gender: Male
Where born: St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St John of Jerusalem
Town: South Hackney Ward
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 206
Folio: 20
Page Number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
John Wills 60 (Cabinet Maker)
Susannah Wills 50...Born Colchester Essex
Savannah Zeik 29
Gloria Zeik 19


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Susannah Amelia Wells
Name: Susannah Amelia Wells
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1901
Age at Death: 60
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 358

I see Agnes Bertha'a husband remarried after her death...

Deaths Sep 1905 (>99%)
MARSHALL Agnes Bertha 50 Hendon 3a 108



Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
MARSHALL Alfred William St. Giles 1b 1296
WALSH Gertrude Mary St. Giles 1b 1296



1911 census - household transcription
Person: MARSHALL, Alfred William
Address: 21 Sussex Place


MARSHALL, Alfred William Head Married M 63 1848 Gelatine Merchant Taplow Buckinghamshire VIEW
MARSHALL, Gertrude Mary Wife Married
4 years F 38 1873 Ilford Essex VIEW
MARSHALL, Rosalie Osborn Daughter Single F 3 1908 Pinner Middlesex VIEW
HENSON, Doris Servant Single F 23 1888 Nurse West Norwood S E VIEW
LEACH, Augusta Louisa Servant Widow F 50 1861 Lady's Maid Much Birchhereford VIEW
COUGHTREY, Esther Servant Single F 35 1876 Cook Scorbiton Surrey VIEW
FOSKETT, Rose Servant Single F 26 1885 Parlourmaid Shambrook Beds VIEW
WALLS, Mary Ann Servant Single F 26 1885 Housemaid Shaffon Waldon Essex VIEW
SHEPARD, Dora Servant Single F 18 1893 Under Housemaid Kensington London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
576 Reference:
RG14PN576 RG78PN20 RD7 SD3 ED19 SN62

Registration District:
St Marylebone Sub District:
Christchurch Enumeration District:
19 Parish:
St Marylebone

Address:
21 Sussex Place County:
London

thank you for all your help with this, I am curious though as to any information now regarding her 3 children Alfred W, William E & Agnes A

If anyone can help

It has Agnes's middle inital as "A" in the 1901 census............and "E" on the 1881....

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Alfred W. MARSHALL Head M Male 33 Eton, Buckingham, England Private Tuter
Agnes B. MARSHALL Wife M Female 25 Walthamstow, Essex, England
Agnes E. MARSHALL Dau Female 1 Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Alfred H. MARSHALL Son Male 4 m Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Mary E. BAINES Visitor U Female 26 Redditch, Worcester, England Ladys Maid


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Source Information:
Dwelling 6 Wellington Rd
Census Place London, Middlesex, England



I wonder if this is her birth...

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Agnes Alfreda Marshall
Name: Agnes Alfreda Marshall
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1879
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 305

(Alfreda after her Father?)

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1847-1965

Name: Agnes Alfreda Marshall
Electoral Year: 1935
Parliamentary Division: Kensington
County or Borough: Kensington and Chelsea


living at 26 Pelham Street




England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Agnes A Marshall
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 95

The 1881 and 1891 shows Alfred's middle intial as "H".

I have yet to find anything positive for him after 1891.

Or a birth for that matter.

??


Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
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MARSHALL Alfred Harold Marylebone 1a 650


Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
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Marshall William Edward Marylebone 1a 619

Looks good Choccy.

they look good. thank you

I am building up a good picture now :-)

Try looking for the three of them on the 1911 census Fiona and let us know how you get on.