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hello everyone.

to all that have been trying to help me thank you.

I have not been able to find a birth for a Ralph Denny but what I did find was a birth for Ralph Edgar Wood and I purchased the cert on the cert it says;

Date born: 21 Dec 1894
Name: Ralph Edgar
Father: William Wood
Mother Mary Wood formerly Smith
father's occupation: Cab Driver

Do you think that william and mary Denny in the census are actually William and Mary Wood, running from something maybe..... just seems a little odd

that looks good to me but i need to do a bit more investigation i think, so i have ordered some more certs see if there is anymore info on them.

thank you

I think this is Joseph in 1891 census....a Denny!

Name: Joseph Denny
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Denny
Mother's name: Mary Denny
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 31 Freeling Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 42b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 158
Folio: 64
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
William Denny 57 b Marylebone occ Cab Driver
Mary Denny 56 b Clerkenwell occ Dressmaker
Charles Denny 15 b Islington occ Cab Driver
>>>Joseph Denny 22 b Islington occ Cab Driver
William Denny 18 b Islington occ Carman
Ralph Denny 16 b Islington occ Greengrocer's Assistant
Annie Brown 47 visitor widow b Manchester occ Tailoress

sorry I missed the second page of posts

so its possible that Joseph's mother Mary was born a Wood then later married a Denny.

I think I will go on that and have a look to see what I can find.

I have been trying to find Joseph Henry Wood on the census but not having much luck, but I did find in the 1891 census what looks like possibly a workhouse
dont know if this is him but the entry reads

Name: Joseph Wood
Age:22
Est Yr Birth: 1869
Relation to Head: Pauper
Occupation: Cab Driver
birth county: London

The address is in Kensington

Hello, I have just purchased the death certificate for Joseph Henry Wood and I have noticed something on there that is interesting and now reading back this post it would relate to what Londonbelle about Joseph and Elizabeth's marriage and the name Denny as my Death cert says;

Date: 17th Dec 1895
Name: Joseph Henry Wood otherwise Denney
Age: 27
Occupation: Cab Driver
Informant: Mary Denney - Mother

When I 1st read the cert it did raise lots of questions and where do I go next?

does anyone have any suggestions or information that may help??

Regards
Joanne

This I believe is Rose Wood's (as per 1911 census above) baptism

Name: Rose Wood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1905
Baptism Date: 22 Mar 1905
Born: 1 Mar 1905
Father's Name: Charles Archibald Claude Wood occ Cab Driver
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battle Bridge All Saints
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

The address is 111 Bemerton Street the same as that for the Denny family in the 1901 census above!

EDIT

And this is Alfred.....again same address 111 Bemerton Street

Name: Alfred Wood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1903
Baptism Date: 11 Feb 1903
Father's Name: Charles Archibald Claud Wood
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battle Bridge All Saints
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

EDIT

And Elizabeth's baptism.....address 111 Bemerton st

Name: Elizabeth Wood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1901
Baptism Date: 23 Oct 1901
Father's Name: Charles Archibald Crow Wood
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battle Bridge All Saints
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers

1891 Islington South West D42b > 6
William Denny and family

1901 Barnbury Islington D34 > 36
William Denny and family.

I wonder when they became Wood.

No sign of William or Mary as Denny on 1911 census.

106 Clondsley St I think is Cloudsley Street

Maryb.

I know what you mean Maureen but is sooooo fits! I had an ancestor who was a Housekeeper she bore two sons to the Head of the House (he was a widower) they were baptized with her married surname (she was a widow) but in later life, after the Head of the House died, they took on his name! The two boys were well looked after in his Will. Why they never married I'll never know!

Possible marriage for Charles?

Name: Charles Wood occ Cab Driver
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Berry
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Jul 1893
Parish: Nunhead St Antony
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Wood occ Cab Driver
Spouse Father Name: Edward Berry occ Fire wood cutter
Register Type: Parish Register

Address for both: 44 Kirkwood Rd

Witnesses: John William Bowie & Susannah Bowie

If our Denny/Wood theory is correct-Joseph's older brother Charles says in 1901 and 1911 that he was born in St Pancras.

....................
1901 census transcription details for: 111, Bemerton Street, Islington
RG number: RG13 Piece: 182 Folio: 80 Page: 10

Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Barnsbury
DENNY, Charles Head Married M 34 1867 Cab Driver
St Pancras
London
DENNY, Elizabeth Wife Married F 31 1870
St Pancras
London
DENNY, Charles Son M 4 1897
Islington
London
DENNY, Ethel Daughter F 3 1898
Islington
London
DENNY, William Son M 1 1900
Islington
London
........
1911 census transcription details for: Bemerton Street 113 Islington London N
RG14PN896 RG78PN31 RD10 SD5 ED25 SN51

Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Barnsbury

WOOD, Charles Married Married M 44 1867 Cab Driver London St Pancras
WOOD, Elizabeth Wife Married
17 years F 42 1869 Sweets Packer London St Pancras
WOOD, Charles Son M 14 1897 Van Boy London Islington
WOOD, Ethel Daughter F 13 1898 School London Islington
WOOD, William Son M 11 1900 School London Islington
WOOD, Elizabeth Son F 8 1903 School London Islington
WOOD, Alfred Son M 8 1903 School London Islington
WOOD, Rose Daughter F 6 1905 School London Islington


Just sort of wondering if Joseph may have been born there as well?
Births Mar 1869
Wood Joseph Henry Pancras 1b 74

Sorry-this is a lot of speculation-even for me!!!!

Maureen :-) :-)

This is the baptism of the Joseph Henry Wood b 1868 previously given on this thread; the only problem here is that William, his father, is a Copper Plate Printer not a Cab Driver

Name: Joseph Henry Wood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1868
Baptism Date: 29 Mar 1868
Born: 7 March 1868
Father's Name: William Wood
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Charterhouse St Thomas
Borough: Islington

Also on the same page is a baptism for James Goodlad Wood same parents born 15 Jul 1865 baptized same day.

So not so sure that this is the Joseph Henry you are looking for.....:-(

Hi, Based on some of the information here, I have found a possible marriage for William Wood it is;

Jan-Feb-Mar 1861
Barnet, Middlesex
spouse: Elizabeth Saunders.

Do you think this maybe a connection?

No thats true they werent....

yes thats right in 1911 Joseph is listed as Wood but if you look for him on the 1901 census he is listed as Harwood. this is why I had a lot of problems trying to find him in the 1901.

Thank you everyone for the help.

I am still a little confused about the Denny surname though.

I'a little lost here.

On the 1911 Joseph is listed as Wood and not Harwood.

You won't see the Mother's Maiden name on the birth registration for a birth in 1898. They weren't shown until late 1911/1912

EDIT: Sorry ladies I forgot to flick the page over!

Yes, Maureen that's what I'm thinking....

Sorry-LB-our posts overlapped.

Yes-it's sure looking like a Denny/Wood connection somehow. I wonder if Mary was a Wood and not married to Mr Denny?

Maureen

And sure enough-Ralph shows up as Denny again....
1911 census transcription details for: 8 the Avenue F Barnet
RG14PN7185 RG78PN352 RD131 SD3 ED27 SN344

Reg. District: Barnet Sub District: Finchley
DENNY, Ralph Head Married M 36 1875 Taxi Cab Driver London
DENNY, Rose Wife Married
14 years F 37 1874 Laundress London
DENNY, William Son Single M 12 1899 School London


Maureen

Yes, Maureen I agree it is interesting.....
You've obviously got access to marriage cert that Im referring to; does it appear strange to you? The fluencency of his signature makes me wonder why he would sign it Joseph Henry Denny then change his mind .....strange!

That Denny theory is interesting!!!!

I think this transcription (FMPast) is supposed to mean Deny or Deiry
1881 census transcription details for: 16, Cardale St, Islington
RG number: RG11 Piece: 236 Folio: 55 Page: 60

Reg. District: Islington Sub District: Islington West
DENYORDEIRY, William Head Married M 48 1833 Cabman
Oxford
Oxfordshire
DENYORDEIRY, Mary Wife Married F 40 1841
Islington
Middlesex
DENYORDEIRY, Charles Son Single M 14 1867 Printer
Islington
Middlesex
DENYORDEIRY, Joseph Son Single M 12 1869 School
Islington
Middlesex
DENYORDEIRY, William Son Single M 9 1872 School
Islington
Middlesex
DENYORDEIRY, Ralph Son Single M 6 1875 School
Islington
Middlesex

..........
??????????
Births Mar 1875
WOOD Ralph Edgar Islington 1b 254
...............................

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Ralph Edgar Wood
Name: Ralph Edgar Wood Occ:Cabman 13 Trinity St.
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Spouse Name: Rose Martha Day
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Mar 1897
Parish: Pentonville St Silas
Borough: Islington
Father Name: William Wood Occ:Cabman
Spouse Father Name: William Day
Register Type: Parish Register

Just wondering!

Maureen

This is Joseph Henry Victor's baptism

Name: Joseph Henry Victor Wood
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1896
Baptism Date: 2 Aug 1896
Born: 2 Nov 1895
Father's Name: Joseph Wood occ Cabman
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Wood
Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary
Borough: Islington

Address: 106 Clondsley Road (looks like)
Register Type: Parish Registers