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John Town - Hackney

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Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:00

I am tying up some loose ends regarding John.
The only definites I have is that he married Harriett Smith 1901. His son was Charles (1906-1970) who married Lillian Ford 16/12 1928.
Harriett was the daughter of Henry Smith and Eliza Broomhead.
I would like to find out where he came from, and dates of birth and death if possible please. Unfortunately his marriage may have been just after the 1901 census. I have no information regarding parents or siblings either.
The family lived in Hackney. Harriett was born and died there, Charles was born at Walthamstow, and died in Hackney.
I have all of Harriett's information. Charles' children Ron and Barbara may still be alive.
TY

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Apr 2012 15:09

The marriage cert will give you his age and hopefully his father.

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Marriages Dec 1901 *

FIELD Arthur Hackney 1b 1033
***********SMITH Harriett Hackney 1b 1033
STEPHENSON Eleanor Maud Hackney 1b 1033
**********Town John Hackney 1b 1033

Mike *

Mike * Report 19 Apr 2012 15:12

the 1911 census should give you his birthplace


EDIT :

Or is this his death ?

Deaths Dec 1909
TOWN John - 54 -Hackney 1b 248

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:15

<<< Lives in Australia.

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:17

Yes Mike, that was what I was hoping, that someone with the 1911 census could help me.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:18

John had died by 1911 and Harriet is back home with her parents

ame: Harriett Tawn/ Town
[Harriett Smith]
Age in 1911: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil parish: St John-at-Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 30 Church Hill Road, Tresham Avenue, Lower Clapton, Homerton
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: PACKER and SORTER IN LAUNDRY
Registration district: Hackney
Registration District Number: 11
Sub-registration district: Central Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 1084
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Smith 70
Eliza Smith 70
Henry Smith 50
Harriett Tawn 36
Charles Tawn 4
Lilian Elizabeth Caron 18 visotor

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 1084; ; .

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:19

That was one of the death dates I was considering. The only concern was that he would have been 10 years younger than his wife, but apart from that quite suitable to look further into.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:21

Name: John Town
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 248

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:21

Lovely Shirley, that is indeed Harrietts family, making the 1909 death more likely.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:22

for confirmation of his age you need the marriage cert but looks like he was some years older than Harriet

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:24

My apologies...maths was never one of my strong points, and I was looking at some completely non connected notes at the time regarding his age. I think you have find the correct John.

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:26

If there is anything else that can be found, I will thank in advance, otherwise, thankyou very much for helping me fill in John's details.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:32

maybe he was a widower agian the cert will tell you

1901 ??
Name: John Town
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:50 Edinburgh Street

Occupation:Porter at GPO

Condition as to marriage:widower

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Piece: 1625
Folio: 61
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
John Town 45
Grace B Town 18

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1625; Folio: 61; Page: 8.

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1891
ame: John Town
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah J Town
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address:26 Lawrence Street

Occupation:milk dairyman ( milkman)

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1321
Folio: 130
Page Number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
John Town 35
Sarah J Town 32 b Canning Town
Grace B Town 8 b Canning Town
Florence E Pickering 16 sister

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1321; Folio: 130; Page: 67; GSU roll: 6096431.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:35

Name: Sarah Jane Pickering
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Spouse Name: John Town
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Oct 1877
Parish: Poplar St Saviour
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Pickering moulder
Spouse Father Name: John Town master mainer
Register Type: Parish Register

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:35

Well....nice work Shirley!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:38

so she died before your John married so looks promising

Name: Sarah Jane Town
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1899
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 193

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:44

I am going to hazard a guess that a mainer should read mariner?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:51

sorry yes Mariner my spell check must have missed it without me noticing !

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Apr 2012 15:55

1871
nd Census about John Town
Name: John Town
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Caroline Town
Gender: Male
Where born: Rotherhithe
Civil parish: Poplar
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 359
Piece: 582
Folio: 116
Page Number: 59
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Town 45 mariners wife
John Town 15 errand boy
Henry Town 14 errand boy

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 582; Folio: 116; Page: 59; GSU roll: 824896.

address 25 Gough Street

Wendy

Wendy Report 19 Apr 2012 15:56

Well that will surprise Mum in the morning when I tell her about yet another distance cousin line we didn't know about!
Ty again.