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BRAGG family, Somerset & Gloucestershire

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JayB

JayB Report 7 May 2012 11:24

Here's 1911 Census for Louisa Viney

1911 Census Record
Personal Information
Name Louisa Viney
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 25 Years
Total Children Born Alive 3
Children Still Living 3
Gender F
Age 51
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Somerset Taunton
Enumerator Information
Address 86 West Street
Parish Bristol
Type of Building Shop
Number of Rooms Six Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN15023 RG78PN906 RD319 SD6 ED26 SN184
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Registration District Bristol
Registration Sub District St Philip and St Jacob
Enumeration District 26

She is there with:
Edwin Head 49 a Garment Dyer
Edith Daughter 23 Assisting with business
Lily Daughter 17 Assisting in business
Ernest Son 14 School

Janet

JayB

JayB Report 7 May 2012 11:10

Hi Cherilyn,

It's very clear 28 so think you could be right :-D

Janet

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 May 2012 09:47

Thanks Janet, looks good for her I think...

Is Emma's age definitely 28 on the original (she would be more like 36!)

Maybe she is saving face from being a cradle-snatcher (now they would call her a cougar!)

JayB

JayB Report 7 May 2012 08:35

Hi Cherilyn,

Here's the 1871 Census again, this time with them all seperate. Jane is stated as being Sister in Law to Walter. Although the writing on the census definately looks like the name BRAY it could be BRAG and the writer just hasn't covered the top of the y to make it a g. Hope that makes sense. Ok waffling over lol.

1871 Census Record
Name Walter Nutt
Age 29
Estimated Year of Birth 1842
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Address Thrissell Street
District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob
Parish St Philip & Jacob
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Birth Place Somerset
Birth County Somerset


1871 Census Record
Name Emma Nutt
Age 28
Estimated Year of Birth 1843
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Address Thrissell Street
District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob
Parish St Philip & Jacob
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Birth Place Somerset
Birth County Somerset


1871 Census Record
Name Jane Bray
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1849
Relationship to Head of Household Sister-In-Law
Occupation
Address Thrissell Street
District Clifton, St Philip & Jacob
Parish St Philip & Jacob
Administrative County Gloucestershire
Birth Place Somerset
Birth County Somerset


Janet

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 May 2012 03:55

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
Bragg Jane Clifton 6a 267
Frost Solomon Clifton 6a 267

1881
Soloman FROST Head M Male 32 Bristol Wood Carver
Jane FROST Wife M Female 32 Taunton Dressmaker
Mary R. FROST Daur Female 7 Bristol Sch [should be Mary K. - Kate]
Dwelling 9 Oxford Place
Census Place Bristol St Philip & Jacob Out, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341601
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2494 / 103
Page Number 25


Can't find their deaths.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 May 2012 02:57

Another thought - this is the 1871 - is that Emma's youngest sister Jane Bragg with them, mistranscribed??? Is her relationship to Walter stated?

Wath Nutt 29
Emma Nutt 28
>>>>Jane Broy 22
Edwd Rakes 15

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 May 2012 02:52


just noticed this - look who was staying with the Hoskins family in 1861!

John Hoskins 22 [think this should be 29]
Mary Ann Hoskins 29
Anne E Hoskins 4
Frederick Wm Hoskins 3
Louisa M Hoskins 1
George Murray 15
>>>>>>>Walter Nutt 19

Maybe he and Emma did marry after all and she 'fudged' her age! This fits with his age in 1871 with Emma when he was 29...

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 7 May 2012 02:19

Wow, thanks Jonesy, great stuff! Also thanks to PrickyHolly & Janet.

Found this:

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Facey Thomas Bennett 62 Cardiff 11a 220

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 11:45

Marriages Sep 1885
Hoskins Louisa Mary Barton R. 6a 297
VINEY Edwin Barton R. 6a 297

1891:

Name: Louisa Viney
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edwin Viney
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1980
Folio: 124
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Viney 29
Louisa Viney 30
Edith Viney 3

1901:
Name: Louisa Viney
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edwin Viney
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Moorfields St Matthew
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bristol
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 2391
Folio: 92
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Viney 40
Louisa Viney 41
Edith Viney 13
Lilian Viney 7
Ernest Viney 4


Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 11:04

Marriages Sep 1855
Bragg Mary Ann Taunton 5c 607
Hoskins John Taunton 5c 607

1861:
Name: Louisa M Hoskins
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Hoskins
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hoskins
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip and Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 201
Piece: 1735
Folio: 44
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hoskins 22
Mary Ann Hoskins 29
Anne E Hoskins 4
Frederick Wm Hoskins 3
Louisa M Hoskins 1
George Murray 15
Walter Nutt 19

1881:
Name: Mary A. Hoskins
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Hoskins
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 5Thrissell St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Dress Maker
Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2496
Folio: 126
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hoskins 48
Mary A. Hoskins 48
Annie E. Hoskins 24
Louisa M. Hoskins 21
Ada E. Hoskins 17
Willm.J. Hoskins 14
Henry Wood 22

1891:
Name: Mary A Hoskins
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Hoskins
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1982
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hoskins 58
Mary A Hoskins 57


Deaths Dec 1891
Hoskins Mary Ann 55 Barton R 6a 113

JayB

JayB Report 6 May 2012 10:55

Hi Cherilyn

Yes James is listed as a widower and occupation as Tailor in the 1871 census. He is living with Alfred Brown, a general dealer and his family - Wife Hannah and daughters Jane and Emma.

Janet

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 10:55

Probable connection to the family Thomas James Bragg was lodging with in 1871. My guess is that Mary Ann Hoskin(s) is most likely Mary Bragg.

1871:
Name: Louisa Hoskin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Highweek
Town: Newton Abbot
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 2082
Folio: 94
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Facey 43
Louisa Facey 42
George Facey 7
Frederick Facey 2
Louisa Hoskin 12

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2012 10:53

Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas FACY Head M Male 51 Pitminster, Somerset, England Gas Manager(NK)
Louisa FACY Wife M Female 50 Taunton, Somerset, England
George FACY Son U Male 16 Taunton, Somerset, England Telegraph Clerk
Frederick FACY Son U Male 12 Newton Abbott, Devon, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 44 Albert St
Census Place Taunton St James, Somerset, England

JayB

JayB Report 6 May 2012 10:51



1851 Census Record
Name Louisa Bragg
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House Servant
Address Upper High Street
District Taunton, Taunton Saint Mary Magdalen
Parish Saint Mary Magdalen
Administrative County Somersetshire
Birth Place Taunton
Birth County Somerset

Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
Bragg Louisa Taunton 5c 704
Facey Thomas Bannett Taunton 5c 704

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 6 May 2012 10:48

The full 1841

1841 England Census
about Louisa Bragg
Name: Louisa Bragg
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Gender: Female
Where born: Somerset, England

Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Hundred: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen

James Bragg abt 1806 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
Ann Bragg abt 1807 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
Louisa Bragg abt 1828 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
Mary Bragg abt 1831 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
Emma Bragg abt 1834 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset
Thomas Bragg abt 1841 Somerset, England St Mary Magdalen, Somerset


Jonesey

Jonesey Report 6 May 2012 10:46

1861:

Name: Louisa Fasey
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Fasey
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: St Mary Magdalen
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St Mary Magdalen
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Piece: 1616
Folio: 50
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Fasey 31
Louisa Fasey 32
Emma Jane Fasey 6

1871:
Name: Louisa Facey
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Facey
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Highweek
Town: Newton Abbot
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Newton Abbot
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 104
Piece: 2082
Folio: 94
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Facey 43
Louisa Facey 42
George Facey 7
Frederick Facey 2
Louisa Hoskin 12

1881:
Name: Louisa Facy
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas Facy
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Taunton St James
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address: 44 Albert St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2368
Folio: 23
Page Number: 40
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Facy 51
Louisa Facy 50
George Facy 16
Frederick Facy 12
Dinah Facy 40

1891:
Name: Louisa Facey
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas B Facey
Gender: Female
Where born: Taunton, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Taunton St James
Ecclesiastical parish: Taunton St James
Town: Taunton
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Taunton
Sub-registration district: Taunton St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1877
Folio: 86
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas B Facey 60
Louisa Facey 60
George Facey 26
Frederick Facey 22

???
Name: Louisa Facey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1896
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Bridgwater
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 238

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:45

REALLY need to go now - hoardes are getting hungry! :-)

Thanks again for all your time and effort so far.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:42

Possible marriage for Louisa?

Marriages Dec 1854 (>99%)
Bragg Louisa Taunton 5c 704
Facey Thomas Bannett Taunton 5c 704

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 May 2012 10:41

Thanks Janet - does it state if he was a widower by any chance? Who was he boarding with?

JayB

JayB Report 6 May 2012 10:39


1871 Census Record
Name James Bragg
Age 64
Estimated Year of Birth 1807
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation
Address Victoria Place
District Taunton, St Mary Magdalen
Parish St Mary Magdalen
Administrative County Somersetshire
Birth Place Somerset
Birth County Somerset

Edit- Listed as being a widower and occupation as Tailor

Janet