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Just a quick one.....on my way to work (still with earache!)....that sounds about right, Evelyn is Minnie's daughter who lived with her mum til she died. Robert (aka Bobby) would be my motehrs cousin but not sure what he would have been doing living there at that time. HE would have been in his 20's. Will ask my mother when I see her monday.

What site are you looking at the register on? I'm assuming it would be a paid site....wouldn't mind a look myself.

thanks for taking the time to look for me!

Gotta run.........!

Hi Michelle,

Just having a go at tracking Albert and Minnie in the electoral registers to see if I can find them going their separate ways as your mum suggested.

They are together in 1923 at 28 Ewald Road.
Same in 1929

In 1931 Minnie is at 28 Ewald Road, but Albert isn't. So looks like they may have split up around 1930 ish.

1938 still at Ewald Rd, Minnie and Evelyn.

16 Grimston Road in 1945 so perhaps Ewald Rd was bombed.

Minnie, Evelyn and Robert are at 16 Grimston Road in 1954 and 1961 which is the last entry for Minnie (stops at 65 anyway)

Albert in 1936 is at 121 Moore Park Road; also in the house is a Mrs Sarah Line and a Mrs Marianne Rogers.

(I will add more as I find them)

Hi Michelle,

Sorry you're unwell, hope you feel better soon.

No I got the info from Ancestry. As Reggie said yesterday there are much better sites than Genes for researching on. The London baptisms are only on Ancestry (or a visit to the LMA!)

I've put info onto the other thread too to try to keep them together.

The story about your grandfather might still be true as this time it seems to be the other way round. Wonder if she got fed up of being pregnant lol! I think we've found 11 children for her!!!!!!

Janice

Edward with his parents 1861

Name: Edward Jeffrey
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Jeffrey
Mother's Name: Sophia Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Midd, Chelsea

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea South
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 212
Piece: 30
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39

Edward Jeffrey 45 stone sawyer born Sussex
Sophia Jeffrey 42 born Sussex
Sophia Jeffrey 15
Edward Jeffrey 13
James Jeffrey 8
Mary Jeffrey 6
Harriet Jeffrey 4

Hi,

Thanks for that info....would I be right in assuming that you've not got that info from Genes (Jephiss/Jephise) as I get nothing when I search for either name (leaving all other entries blank)?

I've got raging earache at the mo so can't concentrate....will leave it a day or 2 then start getting together all the info. I do seem to remember my mother telling me years ago her grandfather walked out on his wife and kids....I wonder if it was actually her greatgrandfather....

Will be seeing her monday so will see what she remembers.

and Rose, the baby who died:

Name: Rose Jeffery
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1889
Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1889
Father's Name: Edward Jeffery (bricklayer)
Mother's Name: Mary Jeffery
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walham Green
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Register Type: Parish Registers


Deaths Sep 1889
Jeffery Rose 0 Fulham 1a 194

Possible deaths for Edward and Mary

Name: Edward Jefferys
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 412


Name: Mary Jeffery
Birth Date: abt 1849
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1931
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Fulham
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 323

What do you think of this? Image looks like Jephiss and she's a charwoman which is what Mary Jeffrey is in 1901. She's lodging and saying single - so is it a different person or has she walked out on Edward?

Name: Mary Jephise (not altered so other people can have a look)
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, London, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dionis Backchurch
County/Island: London
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 53
Folio: 79
Page Number: 16

Walter Humphrey 20
Mary Elizabeth Humphrey 25
Mary Jephise 42

I think I've found Mary in 1901:

Name: Mary Jeffrey
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dionis
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: South Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Piece: 66
Folio: 114
Page Number: 35

Mary Jeffrey 52 (says married not widowed but they aren't together)
Charles Jeffrey 20
Emily Jeffrey 14

Address is 49 Parsons Green Lane.

Charles and Emily are 2 of the 3 youngest children and their ages are about right (out by 1 compared to other census)

Haven't found her yet in 1891 though - she wasn't with Edward in the census someone has already found.

1851 England Census about Mary Ann Coleman
Name: Mary Ann Coleman
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Coleman
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Coleman
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 1471
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
John Coleman 32 >>>>>>>>>>>>>chimney sweep
Mary Ann Coleman 27
John Coleman 5
George Coleman 3
William Coleman 3
Mary Ann Coleman 1
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Please check duplicate thread for other info already found:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1308395?jump=1308395

Dea x

I've had hold of the birth cert for Minnie (b. 15th May 1884) a few weeks now and still no joy finding the family on the census's prior to Minnie's marriage. Info from the cert tells me that she was born at 1a Bullow Road (which apparently no longer exists), her father Edward Jeffery was a bricklayer and her mother was born Mary Coleman.

Where I have been able to find an Edward and Mary jeffery (on the census's), I can not find Minnie! I have found a wedding cert for them though, dated 1866 and would assume from their ages that Minnie would probably have older siblings. I will order that at the end of the month (payday!) and see what that reveals.

I can't find any Coleman's born in Fulham around the estimated DOB for Mary (I'm guessing 1840ish and searching several years either side). I'm guessing a name like Mary Coleman is going to perhaps be Irish.....will have to wait and see what the wedding cert says.

Posting this here in the off chance it will ring bells with someone or someone may search at somepoint. :-)

Possible?

1891 England Census
about Henry Jeffery Name: Henry Jeffery
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Jeffery
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 52
Folio: 173
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Jeffery 44
Henry Jeffery 11
Charles Jeffery 8
Mariane Jeffery 6
Emily Jeffery 3

Edward is listed as married. Address 19 Breer St.

I am just scratching around..........


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London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Louisa Jeffrey Name: Louisa Jeffrey (Spinster)
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Alfred Richard Jackett (Batchelor) Labourer
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1887
Parish: Fulham All Saints
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Edward Jeffrey (Labourer)
Spouse Father Name: Richard Hackett (Carman) Deceased
Register Type: Parish Register



1901 England Census
about Louisa Hackett Name: Louisa Hackett
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alfred Hackett
Gender: Female
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Acton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alban the Martyr
Town: Acton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Acton
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 1204
Folio: 101
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Hackett 32
Louisa Hackett 34
Alfred Hackett 12
Louisa Hackett 11
Arthur Hackett 8

I've just ordered one of the birth certs so fingers crossed it's the one I need! Thanks again everyone for your help. X

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1871 England Census
about Edward Jeffrey Name: Edward Jeffrey
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Jeffrey
Mother's name: Mary Jeffrey
Gender: Male
Where born: Fulham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 72
Folio: 42
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Jeffrey 23 (Brewers Labourer) Chelsea Middlesex
Mary Jeffrey 21
Louisa Jeffrey 4
Edward Jeffrey 2

Well done for finding that 1881 Helen!!

Can't find that family in the next census tho. :-S

1881 England Census about Edward Jeffrie
Name: Edward Jeffrie
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jeffrie
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Fulham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 36A Stanley Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Masons Labourer
Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 33b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 73
Folio: 97
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Jeffrie 33
Mary Jeffrie 33
Mary L. Jeffrie 14
Edward Jeffrie 12
Sofia Jeffrie 10
Eliza Jeffrie 8
Edie Jeffrie 5
Henry Jeffrie 1

Just guessing at this family