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JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 18 Jun 2012 21:01

Darren, I have people I can't find on 1911 but others who have Anc have been successful. It's all something to do with the transcribers and where GR got their transcripts from compared to where others did.

I have got Masons in my tree who have sometimes been a part of the Birmingham area.

Why don't you pm me exactly who you want me to keep an eye open for whilst I'm looking for my own.

J

Darren

Darren Report 18 Jun 2012 20:51

Jill.... :-D :-D Thanks anyway....

Hi Mike... I saw those earlier but not mine... all mine were born in Hinckley, Leics except for George Mason 1904 in Birmingham. It is proving an unsolvable mystery to me.

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Jun 2012 19:39

Is this not daughter Cissie ?

1911
MASON CISSIE - F- 1910- 1- Residing Dudley Staffordshire

and Walter ?

MASON WALTER - M -1907- 4- residing Dudley Staffordshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 18 Jun 2012 19:07

Oh boy. I didn't spot the second page before I went off looking for this place. No nun in the family then. Hey ho. I had fun looking for it though. :-D

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 18 Jun 2012 19:05

I took a look at the census both sides of the Convent. There are no numbers which is a real pain but properties include The Poplars, Rustic Cottage, The Lodge, Ashleigh, Sherwood and Earlswood.

I was hoping to be able to pinpoint the location but typically Birmingham, old stuff gone in favour of not old stuff. Not many properties old enough but some of sufficient standard for Brum to have names rather than be known by numbers on the other side of the road further down. I took a trip down the road courtesey of Google Maps but couldn't spot houses with those names.

What I did find was Highclare School founded in1932. Just to look at that building shouts religion. I would be gobsmacked if that wasn't the Convent in 1911. I couldn't find out for certain on the two sites I looked at for Highclare. It's number 10 Sutton Road. Next along is Erdington Abbey at no.32. It's Catholic.

http://www.erdingtonabbey.co.uk/index.asp .

Next to that is The Abbey RC Primary School. It is definately old enough to have been a school in 1911. Well at least the front part of the building closest to the road

After that building there's nothing of importance.

The opposite side of the road is just car dealerships.

Hope this helps to give you more of an idea of the probably location.

Darren

Darren Report 18 Jun 2012 16:59

Now...this thread has brought me to another long unsolved mystery...? WHY can I NOT find my Grandfather and his parents/siblings ANYWHERE in the 1911 Census?

George Mason 1876 (Head) Hinckley
Ellen Mason 1877 (Spouse) Birmingham
George Mason 1904 (Son) Birmingham
Walter James Mason 1906 (Son) Hinckley
Arthur Mason 1909 (Son) Hinckley
Cissie Mason 1910 (Daughter) Hinckley

I have tried all variations of spellings... have even looked in Birmingham area again (where George and Ellen were married and lived til 1905) but to no avail.

This is frustrating.... :(

Darren

Darren Report 15 Jun 2012 19:13

LOL!! Thanks guys!! You're all brilliant!!

I figure Mike has hit the nail on the head with Lily 1882. I will pop in to the library tomorrow and check parish records for the Mason/Blower marriage cert of 1901. This seems more logical. Although a nun in the family would have been interesting.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 18:55

The Lily in the convent in 1911 is probably this one

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Births Jun 1882
Mason Lily - Hinckley 7a 61

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Jun 2012 18:35

oops!!

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 18:24

Which of Lillie's siblings is your Gt grandparent ?

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Child for Lillie and William

Births Dec 1914
BLOWER Arthur J - Mason- Birmingham 6d 513

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 18:10

Ann, Darren has already confirmed that the 1881 George and Emma is the correct family.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Jun 2012 18:10

Just to show Mike's 1911 find in full:

1911 England Census
Name: Lillie Blower
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 150 Gt Hampton Row
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: St George

William Blower 31
Lillie Blower 33
Stanley Blower 6

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Jun 2012 18:06

1881

George MASON Head M Male 38 Hinckley, Leicester, England Hosiery Trimmer
Emma MASON Wife M Female 35 Hinckley, Leicester, England Hosiery Seamer
James MASON Son U Male 12 Hinckley, Leicester, England Scholar
Sarah J. MASON Daur Female 10 Hinckley, Leicester, England Scholar
Maria MASON Daur Female 9 Hinckley, Leicester, England Scholar
Julia MASON Daur Female 7 Hinckley, Leicester, England Scholar
George MASON Son Male 5 Hinckley, Leicester, England Scholar
Lille MASON Daur Female 3 Hinckley, Leicester, England
Clara MASON Daur Female 10 m Hinckley, Leicester, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 42 Stockwell Head
Census Place Hinckley, Leicester, England
Family History Library Film 1341747
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3131 / 77
Page Number 9

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 15 Jun 2012 18:05

Lily Mason
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Hinckley
census: 1911 Hinckley,? Hinckley,? Leicestershire,? England


name: Lily Mason
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 5
birthplace: Hinckley
record type: Household
registration district: Hinckley
sub-district: Hinckley
parish: Hinckley
county: Leicestershire

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Jun 2012 18:03

I agree with Mike. There is another Lily born Hinckley 1878, much more likely to be her. I know birth years can be out but 5 years is an awful lot, especially as there is an alternative Lily and given the consistent spelling variation of Lillie which she uses.
Jan

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 17:52

Deaths Dec 1961
BLOWER Lillie -83 - Mt.Bosworth 3a 761

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 17:51

possibly ....

1911
BLOWER LILLIE -F -1878 -33 - living in Birmingham Warwickshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Jun 2012 17:48

If the 1881 that I posted is correct family...

Is this her marriage ?
In which case she wouldn't be Mason in 1911


Marriages Dec 1901 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

BLOWER William Hinckley 7a 136
Gilbert William Hinckley 7a 136
MASON Lillie - Hinckley 7a 136
Stoneley Emma Hinckley 7a 136

Darren

Darren Report 15 Jun 2012 17:15

btw Mike... the George and Emma family of Stockwell Head, Hinckley are correct....

Darren

Darren Report 15 Jun 2012 17:13

Hi Guys

thanks for the replies. I am assuming it is her as she was born in Hinckley (in the 1911 census report also) and the year does say circa 1883... near enough to 1878... and the fact that the rest of her siblings are all in the Aston area of Birmingham at that time also.