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Shirley's right of course - my mother was born 1927 and is still very much with us! But worth getting every bit of info you can I think.
Jan

looks like there may be one son born in 1961. are you aware if they did have children?

No her mums name wont help ti find Betty;s death .Born 1929 tho she could still be alive . My OH is only 4 years younger and he is still kicking.!!

If Betty died 1970-2006, birth date will be on the online death index, provided the informant knew it, so might be worth getting birth cert maybe:

Name: Betty J Bates
Mother's Maiden Surname: Feben
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1929
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 95

Jan

hi have found betty j bates mothers name on bettys birth records with the name of Feben would this help to trace any records of betty? death etc
gill :-)

A birth in Aug would most likely be reg in Sept as you have 6 weeks to reg a birth so would be under the Sept qtr . HOWEVER if the birth was late Aug its possible not to reg the birth till the last minute so could well have been reg in early Oct which would then be the Dec qtr .

That Plymouth death tho gives the birth date as 4th aug 1929 so it should have been reg before end Sept 1929.

Maybe she died after 2006 and that record wont be online

not sure if she has died? as u say along way from home. i have date of birth aug 1929? would this be the same qtr?
thanks gill :-)

As per first page

James Will WILLS m Betty J Bates Jun Q 1948 London Southwark
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Betty J Bates b Dec Qtr 1929 London Southwark 1d 95

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Betty Jean Wills d July 1992 Plymouth Devon DoB 4.8.1929 - 21 1509 792 - a bit early for a Dec Qtr birth Registration, but not impossible. And a bit of a distance from their usual stomping grounds. This is the only one showing up to 2006.
Has she definitely died?

Could have gone to family or friends or taken a break following hubbies death

up to 1958 they are on the electoral roll at 15 Scovall Road Southwark

Do you know Betty;s birth date or even the year, as she would have died after 1991 then her birth date ,as known by the informant ,would show on the GRO ref .

hi jan it is certaintly complicated trust my family to get complicated thanks for your help gill :-)

Complicated isn't he!

Marriages Sep 1926
Wills James A Lilian M Hicks Lambeth 1d 847
Wills James A Harman Lambeth 1d 847

Name: James W Hicks
Mother: Harman
Birth: Sep 1925 - Camberwell, Greater London

Name: James W Hicks
Mother: Harman
Birth: Sep 1928 - Camberwell, Greater London

But at least we are certain he was born 1925!

Jan

As both are there, I imagine you can do either.
Jan

hi he was reg. twice 1s t b4 his mother was married and then reg again when married do apply for 1st reg. or 2nd reg birth? gill

You could use his birth cert to check for exact birth date, to double-check.
Jan

To confirm:

Name: James W Wills
Mother's Maiden Surname: Harman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 993

PM

james father was also james mother was harman and betty on james junior cert was widow of deceased thanks gill

i did not know james but have looked at my tree and said he was born in southwark london june 1925

his wife is the informant on death cert it says widow of deceased the death you posted is correct his parents james also and harman i will check my f tree and check details and get back
gill

She might be the informant but that doesn't mean she was his wife.

Betty married a James W Wills is the death cert for this James W Wills ?

Name: WILLS, James W
Registration district: Camberwell
County: London
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Harman
Volume no: 1D
Page no: SEE S28