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Possibly Thomas arriving in US:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Thos Paull
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1883
Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: English
Place of Origin: England
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Grecian Monarch
Occupation = bricklayer. He's accompanied by a "Mrs Paull" also age 40.
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The info that Shirley posted regarding the death of Lewis suggests that he was married three times. I don't know what the source of that info is.
The death record I found for Elizabeth is 10 years after that for Lewis. Unless he was married before he wed Elizabeth perhaps he was polygamous as they were in Salt Lake City?
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You said Charles and Alice went to America shortly after their marriage in 1870, this immigration record indicates otherwise:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Charles Paul
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1870
Birth Year: abt 1847
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Great Britain
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Idaho
He is travelling with an Alice Fry, spinster.
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Found this article about a chap who married a daughter of Charles and Alice:
All Utah Since Statehood, Volumes 1-4
C. H. Johnson, manager for the Continental Oil Company at Logan, where he was born in 1883, is a son of Jacob C. and Bertholine (Madson) Johnson, who were natives of Denmark. Jacob C. Johnson came to Utah in 1878 and the mother arrived in this state a few years later, while their respective parents removed to Utah in 1890. Jacob Johnson first took up his abode at Logan, where he did contract railroad work in connection with his brother for about three years. He then became identified with the express business and in 1891 became a factor in connection with the oil business of the state. He managed the first plant of the Continental Oil Company at Logan and continued in charge of the business for twenty-three years, when he resigned, His record was indeed a most creditable one, for his long connection with the corporation indicates most clearly his capability, loyalty and fidelity. He was city judge for a year prior to his death, which occurred March 9, 1917. He had also filled the office of constable for two years at an earlier period. In the work of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints he took an active and helpful interest. He was an elder in the church, was first counselor to the president of elders of the fifth quorum, and did everything in his power to advance the interests of the church. The mother of C. H. Johnson is still living at the age of sixty-two years.
Reared under the parental roof, C. H. Johnson acquired his education in the schools of Logan and in the spring of 1908 went on a mission to Denmark, returning on the 10th of May, 1910. He then entered the employ of the Continental Oil Company. He had previously had experience along that line, having worked in the business with his father for about five years, and when the latter retired as manager the son was appointed his successor and has continued in the position to the present time. Mr. Johnson displays keen sagacity and enterprise in its control and that he is a worthy successor of his father is indicated in the fact that he has continuously been retained in the position.
In 1912 Mr. Johnson was married to Miss Lillie Paull, a daughter of Charles and Alice (Fry) Paull, who were natives of England and came to Utah about 1867. He settled first at Logan and was employed at mill work in the Logan canyon. In 1871 he took up railroad work and for two years was employed as a fireman, after which he served as engineer for thirty-eight years, pulling the train at the time the golden spike was driven at Promontory which indicated the completion of the two lines by the joining of the two extensions that had been made from the east and the west. At all times he was chosen as the engineer to run the train for the president, as he was considered most careful and reliable in this connection. He, too, was a stanch follower of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Mr. and Mrs. Johnson have become parents of two children, Paull W. and C. Hillman. Mr. Johnson and his family are well known in Logan, where they have an extensive circle of warm friends.
Like his father, Mr. Johnson remains a devoted follower of the church and is the first counselor to the Fifth Quorum of Elders. He is an alert, energetic and enterprising man and these qualities have made him a capable factor in business life, while his progressiveness in citizenship has caused him to be numbered among the most substantial residents of Logan. Every plan or project that has to do with the upbuilding of the city may be sure of his support and cooperation.
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Alice's death:
Utah Cemetery Inventory
Name: Alice Paull
Birth Date: 19 Sep 1846
Death Date: 8 Sep 1910
Burial Date: 13 September 1910
Cemetery: Logan City Cemetery
Source: Sexton / Grant
Grave Location: A_ 30_ 62_ 7
Relatives: Father Daniel Fry
Mother Ellen Deane
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Thanks for all the information. Marie Celeste, the marriage record for Charles and Alice is 05/09/1870 in Lambeth Surrey. I was given this information by another GR Member also related to the Paulls, so just assumed it was right. I don't know where they got it from, but it is also on freebmd. I wonder if they went to America straight after their marriage and Alice had to travel in her maiden name because of her passport? (This happens to most people who go abroad on honeymoon today, so maybe it was the same then?)
Sounds like Thomas Paull was married before he went to the States, so I'll have a look for that. Just got to find out what happened to William Paull now! I wonder if he went to the States as well?
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The info about the Paulls is from Family search site and is submitted info by three researchers.
You could try to contact them via the family search . dont know if that's possible. They may have just copied each other tho !!!
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Mandy, I believe passports weren't generally necessary until the early 1900s. It was around the start of WW1 that they became used in conjunction with the "British Nationality and Status Aliens Act 1914".
But it may well be that the passage was booked before they married so she travelled in the name that the booking was made.
I'll see if I can find anything on William ...
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A possibility for William, Nevada is the next state west from Utah:
California, Voter Registers, 1866-1898
Name: William Paull
Residence Year: 1884
Residence Place: Nevada, California
Age: 47
Birth Year: abt 1837
Was born in England, naturalised 25 Aug 1873.
There are so many Paulls it's not possible really to say if this is him. There is a tree on Ancestry (unsourced, so not reliable) that has him dying 1857.
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Hi MarieCeleste, thanks for this. William might not have gone to the States at all I suppose? he was the eldest, and doesn't appear in the Paull household in the 1861 Census so I assume he'd left home by then, and maybe married? However, this might also support the record of his death in 1857?
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