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Robert

Robert Report 3 Jul 2012 16:28

I'm trying to find the family of my great grandmother Catherine Flannigan, and am having little joy. I have tried asking family members who knew her better, and they seem to remember her having a sister called Annie(could be Anne/Ann) and another sister called Mary, and maybe even a brother called Dominic. Catherine Flannigan's married name was Halliday, I know she was born in 1895, and died 1985.
I have also been told that she was born in Ireland, but having just come back from Dublin trying to find this out, a number of possibilities have been thrown up, one being that she may have been born in Ireland, but was never registered, and secondly, that she may not have been born there at all, but with the surname Flannigan, could just be or Irish descent.
So, If anyone can help, any information would be good. :-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2012 16:30

Robert, where did Catherine marry please?

EDIT - for ref.

Name: Catherine Halliday
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1895
Date of Registration: Apr 1985
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 5
Page: 427

fuzzyducky82

fuzzyducky82 Report 3 Jul 2012 16:32

Marriage ?????

Catherine Flannigan
Spouse Surname: Halliday
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 771 (click to see others on page)

fuzzyducky82

fuzzyducky82 Report 3 Jul 2012 16:35

Was she born Leeds way?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2012 16:36

Do you have her father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate please?

wisechild

wisechild Report 3 Jul 2012 16:45

Possibly.

2 Chapel Square Little Queen St /West St Leeds 1911.
Joseph Flanagan 55 widower housepainter.
Teresa Flanagan 24
Frances Flanagan 22
Margaret Flanagan 19
Elizabeth Flanagan 17
Catherine Flanagan 15.

There could well have been other siblings who were older or had left home /married.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Jul 2012 16:47

Have you ruled out these possibilities please?

1901

Name: Catherine Flanagan
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph Flanagan
Mother's name: Elizabeth Flanagan
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 86
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Piece: 4240
Folio: 34
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Flanagan 44
Elizabeth Flanagan 41
John W Elfred Flanagan 20
Mary Ellen Flanagan 18 <<<<<<<<<
Louisa Flanagan 14
Francese Flanagan 12
Margaret Flanagan 9
Elizabeth Flanagan 7
Catherine Flanagan 5 <<<<<<<<
Albert Harrison 20
Arthur Schofield 27
Mary Schofield 25

1911 - same family

Name: Catherine Flanagan
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Chapel Sq Little Queen St West St
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Cardford Box Maker
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: West Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 65
Piece: 27046
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Flanagan 55 House Painter
Terera Flanagan 24
Frances Flanagan 22
Margaret Flanagan 19
Elesibath Flanagan 17
Catherine Flanagan 15

1911

Name: Catherine Flanagan
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 62 Hopwood St Hull
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At School
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 28717
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Flanagan 47 Trade Union Secretary
Mary Flanagan 49
John Flanagan 19
Catherine Flanagan 17 <<<<<<<<<
Annie Flanagan 15 <<<<<<<<<
William Flanagan 12
Thomas Flanagan 10
Francis Flanagan 7
Charles Vincent Flanagan 3
Catherine Killeen 66 Aunt



Robert

Robert Report 3 Jul 2012 19:40

She married in Leeds in 1914, that I know, and I know she was born 11/4/1895, and died 29/04/1985 in Leeds. I have been told she came from Ireland, but my recent visit to Ireland raised more questions than answers. I will be speaking to a relative soon, whom, if I ask the correct questions, might give me the correct answers. :-S

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jul 2012 20:04

Robert, do you have her marriage certificate which should have her father's name on (if she knew him)?

If not, then order a copy from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jul 2012 20:26

There are 7 Halliday births with mother's maiden name Flanagan born Leeds between 1919-1928 on FreeBMD. It looks like 2 of them are twins. Are they yours?

I agree with MarieCeleste, you have to get that marriage certificate to find father's name.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 3 Jul 2012 20:36

Possibly she was born in Leeds?

Births Sep 1895 (>99%)
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Flanagan Catherine Leeds 9b 503

Repeat: you have to get marriage certificate to get father's name.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 4 Jul 2012 10:34

Robert, the marriage certificate should be your first step as information from family can, unintentionally, be unreliable. For example when I was a child I believed my maternal grandmother to have been born in Ireland. In fact she was born in Scotland of Irish parents (who had met and married in Scotland). She had lived in Ireland for about 10 years with her parents but had returned to Scotland after they died.

Robert

Robert Report 4 Jul 2012 15:58

Having spoken with a relative last night, she remembers Catherin Flannigan having a Yorkshire accent, so I will be going with her being born in Leeds. I also learned that she was buried at Killingbeck cemetry, which could be helpful. My aunt is going to ring round some other family members who may/may not have a birth certificate, who should be getting in touch. In the meantime, I think I will try and get a copy of the marriage certificate. Thanks for all your suggestions so far!! :-D :-D :-D

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Jul 2012 16:05

Robert, I'm surprised that you say you THINK you will TRY to get a copy of the marriage certificate. I think it's absolutely essential that you do, unless, of course, a relative has her birth certificate. If you can get her father's name we could find them on a census.

Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 16:38

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Walter Halliday <<Labourer 2 Treton St?
Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 11 Apr 1914
Parish: Leeds, St Mary
Father's Name: Joseph Halliday <<LAbourer
Spouse's Name: Catharine Hanagan (Flanagan) 10 New Church Place
Spouse's Father's Name: John Hanagan <<Labourer

Wit: William Henry & Catherine Halliday

Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 16:42

1911 England Census
about Catherine Flannaghan
Name: Catherine Flannaghan
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Winteringham Yard Lemon St Leeds
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Machinist In Tailers Shop
Registration district: Leeds
Registration District Number: 500
Sub-registration district: North East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 27093
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannaghan 56 <<<Bricklayers labourer
Catherine Flannaghan 54
Mary Flannaghan 19
Ann Flannaghan 17
Catherine Flannaghan 15


Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 16:46

1901 England Census
about Catharine Flanagan
Name: Catharine Flanagan
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Flanagan
Mother's name: Catharine Flanagan
Gender: Female

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 4222
Folio: 71
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Flanagan 45
Catharine Flanagan 41
John Flanagan 11
Mary Flanagan 9
Annie Flanagan 8
Catharine Flanagan 5


Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 17:10

1891 England Census
about John Hauaghan
Name: John Hauaghan
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Hauaghan
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3691
Folio: 38
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
John Hauaghan 36 <<<<<<<<<Bricklayers labourer
Catherine Hauaghan 35
John Hauaghan 2
James Mc Donald 36
Bridget Hauaghan 32
James Hauaghan 13
Thomas Hauaghan 4
John Hauaghan 2


Looks like Flanagan

Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 18:07

Marriages Sep 1888
------------------------------------

COSTELLO Catherine Leeds 9b 818

Hughes James Henry Leeds 9b 818
Ward Margaret Leeds 9b 818

There is a male missing off this entry which I think is John Flan*



Heres Catherines sister as per the above census


Marriages Dec 1879
---------------------------
Costelow Bridget Leeds 9b 508
MCDONALD James Leeds 9b 508

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Bridget Costelow
Birth Year: abt 1861
Age: 18
Marriage or Bann Date: 27 Oct 1879
Parish: Burmantofts, St Stephen
Father's Name: Martin Costelow >>>Labourer
Spouse's Name: James McDonald >Boot finisher

Wit: Mary Ann Kelly & Robert?

Gee

Gee Report 4 Jul 2012 18:20

Catherine and her family


1871 England Census
Name: Catherine Costalow
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Costalow
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 4554
Folio: 154
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Costalow 40 <<<<<Widow born Ireland
Mary Costalow 16
Catherine Costalow 14
Bridget Costalow 12
Thomas C Costalow 10
Martin Costalow 7
Bridget Costalow 19


1861 England Census
Name: Catherine Castells
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Martin Castells <<Bricklayers labourer
Mother's name: Mary Castells
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 3383
Folio: 13
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Castells 36 <<Ire
Mary Castells 30 <<Irel
Miles Castells 8
Mary Castells 6
Catherine Castells 4
Bridget Castells 2



Looks like Catherines parents marriage



Marriages Dec 1852
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COSTELLO Martin Leeds 9b 642
Garvey Mary Leeds 9b 642


And her fathers death


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
Name: Martin Castelow
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867
Age at Death: 40
Registration district: Leeds
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 301