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Robert
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3 Jul 2012 16:28 |
I'm trying to find the family of my great grandmother Catherine Flannigan, and am having little joy. I have tried asking family members who knew her better, and they seem to remember her having a sister called Annie(could be Anne/Ann) and another sister called Mary, and maybe even a brother called Dominic. Catherine Flannigan's married name was Halliday, I know she was born in 1895, and died 1985. I have also been told that she was born in Ireland, but having just come back from Dublin trying to find this out, a number of possibilities have been thrown up, one being that she may have been born in Ireland, but was never registered, and secondly, that she may not have been born there at all, but with the surname Flannigan, could just be or Irish descent. So, If anyone can help, any information would be good. :-D
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3 Jul 2012 16:30 |
Robert, where did Catherine marry please?
EDIT - for ref.
Name: Catherine Halliday Birth Date: 11 Apr 1895 Date of Registration: Apr 1985 Age at Death: 90 Registration district: Leeds Inferred County: Yorkshire Volume: 5 Page: 427
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fuzzyducky82
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3 Jul 2012 16:32 |
Marriage ?????
Catherine Flannigan Spouse Surname: Halliday Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1914 Registration district: Leeds Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume Number: 9b Page Number: 771 (click to see others on page)
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3 Jul 2012 16:35 |
Was she born Leeds way?
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rootgatherer
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3 Jul 2012 16:36 |
Do you have her father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate please?
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3 Jul 2012 16:45 |
Possibly.
2 Chapel Square Little Queen St /West St Leeds 1911. Joseph Flanagan 55 widower housepainter. Teresa Flanagan 24 Frances Flanagan 22 Margaret Flanagan 19 Elizabeth Flanagan 17 Catherine Flanagan 15.
There could well have been other siblings who were older or had left home /married.
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3 Jul 2012 16:47 |
Have you ruled out these possibilities please?
1901
Name: Catherine Flanagan Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Flanagan Mother's name: Elizabeth Flanagan Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 86 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Piece: 4240 Folio: 34 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Flanagan 44 Elizabeth Flanagan 41 John W Elfred Flanagan 20 Mary Ellen Flanagan 18 <<<<<<<<< Louisa Flanagan 14 Francese Flanagan 12 Margaret Flanagan 9 Elizabeth Flanagan 7 Catherine Flanagan 5 <<<<<<<< Albert Harrison 20 Arthur Schofield 27 Mary Schofield 25 1911 - same family
Name: Catherine Flanagan Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 2 Chapel Sq Little Queen St West St Marital Status: Single Occupation: Cardford Box Maker Registration district: Leeds Registration District Number: 500 Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 65 Piece: 27046 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Flanagan 55 House Painter Terera Flanagan 24 Frances Flanagan 22 Margaret Flanagan 19 Elesibath Flanagan 17 Catherine Flanagan 15 1911
Name: Catherine Flanagan Age in 1911: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Sculcoates County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding Country: England Street Address: 62 Hopwood St Hull Marital Status: Single Occupation: At School Registration district: Sculcoates Registration District Number: 521 Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Piece: 28717 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Flanagan 47 Trade Union Secretary Mary Flanagan 49 John Flanagan 19 Catherine Flanagan 17 <<<<<<<<< Annie Flanagan 15 <<<<<<<<< William Flanagan 12 Thomas Flanagan 10 Francis Flanagan 7 Charles Vincent Flanagan 3 Catherine Killeen 66 Aunt
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Robert
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3 Jul 2012 19:40 |
She married in Leeds in 1914, that I know, and I know she was born 11/4/1895, and died 29/04/1985 in Leeds. I have been told she came from Ireland, but my recent visit to Ireland raised more questions than answers. I will be speaking to a relative soon, whom, if I ask the correct questions, might give me the correct answers. :-S
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MarieCeleste
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3 Jul 2012 20:04 |
Robert, do you have her marriage certificate which should have her father's name on (if she knew him)?
If not, then order a copy from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
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MargaretM
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3 Jul 2012 20:26 |
There are 7 Halliday births with mother's maiden name Flanagan born Leeds between 1919-1928 on FreeBMD. It looks like 2 of them are twins. Are they yours?
I agree with MarieCeleste, you have to get that marriage certificate to find father's name.
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MargaretM
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3 Jul 2012 20:36 |
Possibly she was born in Leeds?
Births Sep 1895 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Flanagan Catherine Leeds 9b 503
Repeat: you have to get marriage certificate to get father's name.
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4 Jul 2012 10:34 |
Robert, the marriage certificate should be your first step as information from family can, unintentionally, be unreliable. For example when I was a child I believed my maternal grandmother to have been born in Ireland. In fact she was born in Scotland of Irish parents (who had met and married in Scotland). She had lived in Ireland for about 10 years with her parents but had returned to Scotland after they died.
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Robert
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4 Jul 2012 15:58 |
Having spoken with a relative last night, she remembers Catherin Flannigan having a Yorkshire accent, so I will be going with her being born in Leeds. I also learned that she was buried at Killingbeck cemetry, which could be helpful. My aunt is going to ring round some other family members who may/may not have a birth certificate, who should be getting in touch. In the meantime, I think I will try and get a copy of the marriage certificate. Thanks for all your suggestions so far!! :-D :-D :-D
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MargaretM
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4 Jul 2012 16:05 |
Robert, I'm surprised that you say you THINK you will TRY to get a copy of the marriage certificate. I think it's absolutely essential that you do, unless, of course, a relative has her birth certificate. If you can get her father's name we could find them on a census.
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4 Jul 2012 16:38 |
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 Name: Walter Halliday <<Labourer 2 Treton St? Birth Year: abt 1892 Age: 22 Marriage or Bann Date: 11 Apr 1914 Parish: Leeds, St Mary Father's Name: Joseph Halliday <<LAbourer Spouse's Name: Catharine Hanagan (Flanagan) 10 New Church Place Spouse's Father's Name: John Hanagan <<Labourer
Wit: William Henry & Catherine Halliday
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4 Jul 2012 16:42 |
1911 England Census about Catherine Flannaghan Name: Catherine Flannaghan Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding Country: England Street Address: 6 Winteringham Yard Lemon St Leeds Marital Status: Single Occupation: Machinist In Tailers Shop Registration district: Leeds Registration District Number: 500 Sub-registration district: North East Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Piece: 27093 Household Members: Name Age John Flannaghan 56 <<<Bricklayers labourer Catherine Flannaghan 54 Mary Flannaghan 19 Ann Flannaghan 17 Catherine Flannaghan 15
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4 Jul 2012 16:46 |
1901 England Census about Catharine Flanagan Name: Catharine Flanagan Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Flanagan Mother's name: Catharine Flanagan Gender: Female Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Peter Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 4222 Folio: 71 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age John Flanagan 45 Catharine Flanagan 41 John Flanagan 11 Mary Flanagan 9 Annie Flanagan 8 Catharine Flanagan 5
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4 Jul 2012 17:10 |
1891 England Census about John Hauaghan Name: John Hauaghan Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Hauaghan Gender: Male Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 34 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3691 Folio: 38 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Hauaghan 36 <<<<<<<<<Bricklayers labourer Catherine Hauaghan 35 John Hauaghan 2 James Mc Donald 36 Bridget Hauaghan 32 James Hauaghan 13 Thomas Hauaghan 4 John Hauaghan 2 Looks like Flanagan
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4 Jul 2012 18:07 |
Marriages Sep 1888 ------------------------------------ COSTELLO Catherine Leeds 9b 818 Hughes James Henry Leeds 9b 818 Ward Margaret Leeds 9b 818
There is a male missing off this entry which I think is John Flan*
Heres Catherines sister as per the above census
Marriages Dec 1879 --------------------------- Costelow Bridget Leeds 9b 508 MCDONALD James Leeds 9b 508
West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935 Name: Bridget Costelow Birth Year: abt 1861 Age: 18 Marriage or Bann Date: 27 Oct 1879 Parish: Burmantofts, St Stephen Father's Name: Martin Costelow >>>Labourer Spouse's Name: James McDonald >Boot finisher
Wit: Mary Ann Kelly & Robert?
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4 Jul 2012 18:20 |
Catherine and her family
1871 England Census Name: Catherine Costalow Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Mother's name: Mary Costalow Gender: Female Where born: Leeds Civil parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Household schedule number: 113 Piece: 4554 Folio: 154 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Mary Costalow 40 <<<<<Widow born Ireland Mary Costalow 16 Catherine Costalow 14 Bridget Costalow 12 Thomas C Costalow 10 Martin Costalow 7 Bridget Costalow 19 1861 England Census Name: Catherine Castells Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Martin Castells <<Bricklayers labourer Mother's name: Mary Castells Gender: Female Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Leeds Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: North Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 111 Piece: 3383 Folio: 13 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Martin Castells 36 <<Ire Mary Castells 30 <<Irel Miles Castells 8 Mary Castells 6 Catherine Castells 4 Bridget Castells 2
Looks like Catherines parents marriage
Marriages Dec 1852 ----------------------------------------------- COSTELLO Martin Leeds 9b 642 Garvey Mary Leeds 9b 642
And her fathers death
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 Name: Martin Castelow Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867 Age at Death: 40 Registration district: Leeds Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 301
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