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i think the 1911 that gives charles birth year as 1883 is correct
yes charles r pilcher is the correct one thank you

Could this be him?

Name: Charles R Pilcher
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1910
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 935

k
thank you
as i thought his son was born on ship

edit was not born on ship as thought

Looks like Charles in 1891 the transcription has been corrected

1891

Name: Charles E Pitcher
[Charles E Pilcher]
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
[1884]
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles J Pitcher
Mother's name: Fanny Pitcher
Gender: Male
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England

Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Hatcham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 505
Folio: 82
Page Number: 70
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles J Pitcher 39 b Lambeth Brewers Clerk
Fanny Pitcher 27 b Kent Chatham
Emma M Pitcher 14
Eleanor D Pitcher 12
Charles E Pitcher 17
Jane Pitcher 6
William J Pitcher 72 Father of Charles J b Greenwich Commercial Traveller

1911?

Name: Charles Edwin Pilcher
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: STRATFORD, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Octavius Street, Deptford S E
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: STOREHOUSEMAN ROYAL VICTORIA YARD DEPTFORD
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 2628
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Edwin Pilcher 28
Edith Mabel Pilcher 24 b Greenwich
Charles Richard Pilcher 1 No birth place listed

charles richard pilcher the son of charles edwin pilcher & edith curle
{please see the thread on this}born on board the ship they were travelling
he was born 1910
could you also inform me where charles edwin pilcher was born 1883
any info appreciated

thank you all

thank you all

1841 England Census
Name: Mary Hanterine
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Hundred: Blackheath
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 489
Book: 2
Folio: 34
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Marlin 60
Samuel Hanterine 50 <<<<Waterman
Harriett Hanterine 45
Thomas Hanterine 12
Charles Hanterine 4
Mary Hanterine 8
Harry Unthank 12


Mistranscribed!


1861 England Census
Name: Mary A Langsdon
[Mary Ann Langdon]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Langsdon
Mother's name: Harriet Unthink
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich St Alphege
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 401
Folio: 84
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Langsdon 53
Mary A Langsdon 27
John Langsdon 11
Charles Langsdon 9
Charlotte Langsdon 7
Harriet Unthink 69

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Mary Ann Unthank
Spouse Name: John Landon
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1850
Parish: Greenwich St Alphege
Borough: Greenwich
Father Name: Samuel Unthank <<<Wasterman
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Landon
Register Type: Parish Register

Wit: Samuel & Harriet Unthank



So, the baptism and death I posted earlier must be another child of Sam & Harriett?

i dont believe mary unthank married so no to your question
to each and everyone that replied thank you all

Baptism and death of John Jnr's youngest son Harry:

Name: Harry Alfred Langdon
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1895
Baptism Date: 24 Mar 1895
Father's Name: John Langdon
Mother's name: Emma Langdon
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Andrew and St Michael
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Harry Alfred Langdon
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1901
Age at Death: 6
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 587

John's wife Emma remarried (Possibly to Benjamin Parrott) in 1904:

Name: Emma Langdon
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1904
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 1764

Deaths Mar 1909
PARROTT Emma 59 Wandsworth 1d 380

1911:

Name: Benjamin Parrott
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bermondsey
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 1a Lenthorp Rd, E Greenwich S E
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: GENERAL LABOURER
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 2701
Household Members:
Name Age
William Edwards 64
Emma Edwards 64
Ernest Edwards 17
Ada Edwards 14
Alfred Skinner 6
George Parrott 52
George Parrott 21
Daniel Parrott 14
Maud Parrott 11
Florence Parrott 8
William Parrott 6
Benjamin Parrott 54

1891

Name: John Langdon
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Langdon
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 512
Folio: 62
Page Number: 44
Household Members:
Name Age
John Langdon 39
Emma Langdon 33
William Langdon 6
Charles Langdon 3

1881 John Landon 1851
mother remarried ????

Name: John Langdon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Mary A. Abrahams
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England

Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 56 Bennett St
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: General Labr

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 724
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A. Abrahams 44
John Langdon 30

Numerous Alice Newsteads of approx age..

this is one of them 1891


Name: Alice Newstead
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William T Newstead
Mother's name: Mary A Newstead
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 514
Folio: 51
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
William T Newstead 40
Mary A Newstead 45
Mary A Newstead 18*********
Alice Newstead 16
William Newstead 14
Edward Newstead 11**********EDWIN???
James Newstead 7
Jessie Newstead 4
William Prosser 41


AND 1901


Name: Alice Newstead
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William T Newstead
Mother's name: Mary A Newstead
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, London, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Piece: 542
Folio: 99
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
William T Newstead 50
Mary A Newstead 52
Alice Newstead 26
Henry B Sealy 26

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Edith Mabel Pilcher
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1887 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1971
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 832


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Charles E Pilcher
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1961
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 267

1861 ????
LONGDON, John Head Married M 50 1811 General Labourer
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
LONGDON, Mary A Wife Married F 27 1834 General Labourer
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
LONGDON, John Son M 11 1850 Scholar
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
LONGDON, Charles Son M 9 1852 Scholar
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
LONGDON, Charlotte Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar
Greenwich, Kent VIEW
UNTWICK, Harriet Mother In Law Widow F 69 1792
Greenwich, Kent VIEW

Piece: 401

Folio: 84

Page: 8

Registration District: Greenwich

Civil Parish: St Alphage

Municipal Borough: Greenwich

Address: 10, St Andrews Court, Hog Lane, St Alphage, Greenwich

County: London, Kent

1901


Name: Edith Curle
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Curle
Mother's name: Edith Curle
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 193
Piece: 527
Folio: 49
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Curle 37
Edith Curle 35
Edith Curle 13
William Curle 12
Florence Curle 8
Richard Curle 5

Name: Edith Mabel Curle
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1887
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1887
Father's Name: Richard Curle
Mother's name: Edith Curle
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Alphege
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: Edith Mabel Pilcher
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Greenwich
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Octavius Street, Deptford S E
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 2628
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Edwin Pilcher 28
Edith Mabel Pilcher 24
Charles Richard Pilcher 1


Name: Edith Mabel Pilcher
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Greenwich
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Octavius Street, Deptford S E
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 2628
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Edwin Pilcher 28
Edith Mabel Pilcher 24
Charles Richard Pilcher 1


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Edith Mabel Pilcher
Name: Edith Mabel Pilcher
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan
Arrival Date: 30 Nov 1920
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Kobe
[Shanghai]
Ship Name: Kashgar
Search Ship Database: View the 'Kashgar' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 128654

Boarded in Hong Kong

travelling with husband and son as per 1911

Name: Edith Mabel Pilcher
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1887
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1971
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Gosport
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 832

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Edith Mabel Curle
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 2nd June1887
Baptism Date: 17 Jul 1887
Father's Name: Richard Curle <<<Labourer
Mother's name: Edith Curle
Parish or Poor Law Union: Greenwich St Alphege
Borough: Greenwich
Register Type: Parish Registers