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George - you still need to buy her marriage certificate to Michael Wynn. When you have that you will be able to confirm or otherwise that her father was John. Until then I feel we are all surmising and going round in circles

Jude

Sorry I have not been able to reply to you sooner but I have been trying to find out information from messages sent to me, here is a start.
Leah Dent baptism,Auckland dis,Location,Hamsterly,Church St James,
23May 1824 Leah Dent of StoneChester,daughter of John(farmer)and
Isabella Dent this matches one previous message.StoneChester is the name of two farms in Co Durham,High StoneChester and Low StoneChester
both farms are still there and on the internet with photos of Low StoneChester where I think Leah Dent lived because it is very close to
Hamsterly I have looked for John Dent on internet and all that I can find are lead miners from Stanhope area with no Isabella on cenus.
Michael Winn Grandson living with Leah Palmer 1861 was born latter part of 1860 at Merrington Grange Co Durham.I have not been able to Leah Dent on 1841 cenus but there is a Leah Palmer living in Woolwich London not born in area a wild shot Michael Wynn 1881 cenus widow living in Ovington Yorkshire.
George Coussins married Mary Dent 14 May 1831 Stainton in Cleveland York Mary Dent born Romaldkirk Yorkshire there are two many Mary Dents born in Romaldkirk to make connection of parents.
George Coussins blacksmith went on to be a farmer.
Thank you George

Only seeing Elizabeth, Baptism 14 May 1822.

No luck with Marriages...sorry!.

Chris :)

Just a thought Chris. Any siblings to Leah that we might be able to find in 1841?

Nice one Chris


Now we need the marriage certificate :-D

Baptism
Day:23
Month:May
Year:1824
Forenames:Leah
Surname:Dent
Fathers Forenames:John
Occupation:
Mothers Forenames:Isabella
Mothers Surname:Dent
Birth day:
Birth month:
Birth year:
Abode:
Place:Hamsterley
Description:
County:Durham
Country:England
Checked:
Other info:
Other Father:
Other Mother:
Notes:
Record source:Northumberland and Durham Baptisms

(am posting above, from FMP, but not sure if it helps you good folks, apologies if no good!)

Chris :)

Yeah I have looked to no avail Gins....


Mary...had sort of got there as well....I suspect a load of inter-familial goings on.

And who said it was only the Welsh that inbred ha ha :-) !!

I cant find Leah on the 1841 census? Anyone else had a look :-S

Here is a Dent connection.

George Coussons a Blacksmith 1806 married
Mary Dent born 1811?
They had a daughter Isabella 1833/4 married John B Palmer
Dorothy 1846 married John B Palmer
Leah Coussons 1848 witness on marriage of Dorothy.
George DENT Coussons 1837

So is Mary Dent the Aunt of Leah Pearson Dent!!

Maryb.

Mary Maud Palmer (from 1861 census) goes on to marry Godfrey Taylor:-

1901 England Census about Mary M Taylor
Name: Mary M Taylor
[Mary M Palmer]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Gotfred M Taylor
Mother's name: Dora Palmer
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 657
Folio: 67
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Gotfred M Taylor 39 born: 1862, Pimlico, London
xxxx Mary M Taylor 40 xxxx
Isabel G Taylor 12
Maud D M Taylor 8
Olive M Taylor 7
xxxx Dora Palmer 53 xxxx
Jas W Waterhouse 23
Agnes Manning 45
Ethel M Reeder 26
Sarah King 22
......................................................

So I think this is Dorothy in 1871:-

1871 England Census about Dora Cousens
Name: Dora Cousens
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Sedgefield, Durham, England
Civil parish: Kingston on Thames
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 70
Piece: 861
Folio: 144
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Taylor 53 - Civil Engineer( b.1818 born: Sunderland, Durham)
Hannah M Taylor 51
John Taylor 18
Mary B Taylor 17
Edward B Taylor 14
xxxx Godfrey M Taylor 9 xxxx
xxxx Dora Cousens 24 xxxx
Am Ellis 27
Martha H Fisher 20

George...this tangled web has intrigued me greatly....

I think there are two certificates you need to buy. Leah's marriage to Michael Wynn and Leah Wynn's birth certificate as suggested by GB.

Here are some notes I have made....

Whilst marriages for John Brough Palmer in 1843 to Leah and 1856 to Isabella are widely reported elsewhere there is no evidence for either of these. However, the date in 1843 is very specific so just where has this come from?

Ester Wynn on 1861 census with Leah Palmer and William on 1861 census with Michael Wynn were probably twins

Births Jun 1854 (>99%)
WYNN Esther Darlington 10a 15
WYNN William Darlington 10a 15

In 1851 Michael is with wife Ann. An Ann Wynn dies December 1860

Deaths Dec 1860 (>99%)
Wynn Ann Auckland 10a 75

In 1861 census with Leah is Michael Winn "grandson" aged 5 months. Did Ann die in childbirth?

Could Ann be Leah's sister?

Possible death in Marylebone for Isabella (last children born there) in 1864

Leah Coussins is sister of Isabella and Dorothy and is on one census with both of them and parents George and Mary.

My guess is that John and Leah were not together very long - no children in 1851 census which would be unusual and that shortly after that census in Kingston upon Thames she returned to Durham alone.

John and children - and Dorothy - all AWOL in 1871

Don't believe everything you read elsewhere without hard evidence...come back to us when you have the certs! :-)

Buy the cert to see how she describes herself

Births Mar 1871 (>99%)
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Wynn Leah Ann Hexham 10b 272

I feel I wasted my time looking for and posting census info as that information should have been included in the request

Death of Leah in 1850 not possible because she is on census with John in 1851 (not to say the ones wefind in 1861 and 1871)!!

Jude

I must admit I'm not too sure what Leah's maiden name really is! Hopefully, the marriage cert will have a father's name.....

George you wrote: I have everything else about her. i.e marriages etc but not her parents


Well, you dont as you dont have the certificate(s)

You'll have to stick your hand in your pocket Im affraid!


You can buy them from here....£9.25



http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

One reason for thinking she did not marry John Palmer is that she marries Michael Wynn as Pearson Dent. So assuming they had not divorced....

This is your best bet for her father

But back to Shirley's post - get the marriage certificate to Michael Wynn

This will give you her father's name and occupation. You can at least then try and find them in 1841

It is a very tangled web indeed .All the information I have been sent is correct and I got most of it off the census she did marryJohn Brough Palmer supposedly in 1843 (look up his family born 1826 South Shields)And married Michael Winn 1871 again from Durham Registras.Thank you very much for all the information you have all sent me but it is her birth parents I would like to find if at all possible. Thanking you all once again

Not got much of a clue as to what's going on here :-S

She dies as Leah Wynn in 1875. The 1871 census is months before she married Michael Wynn but had obviously known/been with him for over ten years. The Michael "grandson" aged 5months in 1861 is the adopted son aged 10 in 1871. And I have found Isabella with her (I think) widowed father and a brother William in 1861. I assume Ester was another daughter of Michael but can't find her after 1861 census.

And John B it would seem was living with his wife Isabella and his future wife Dorothy - who if the census is correct must have been Isabella's sister. But I cannot find a marriage to Leah or to Isabella.....A Palmer tree on A has marriage (unsupported) to Leah on 15 April 1843, to Isabella Coussens in 1856 (also unsupported) and finally to Dorothy in 1873.

Another tree has a witness to the marriage to Dorothy as Leah Coussens!

A right tangled web!

But back to Shirley's post - get the marriage certificate to Michael Wynn

Jude