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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 11:09

Do you know if they had any children or are you a decendant of Emma?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 11:11

parents: Thomas Davison,? Mary Davison

name: Mary Anne Davison
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 03 Apr 1817
baptism/christening place: Bishop-Wearmouth, Durham, England
father's name: Thomas Davison
mother's name: Mary Davison
indexing project (batch) number: C01409-7
system origin: England-EASy

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Mary Ann Drummond
Name: Mary Ann Drummond
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1869
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 298


source film number: 1514674

safc

safc Report 7 Aug 2012 11:29

South Tyneside Register Office

1850 - 1 record found
William DRUMMOND
Spouse: Barbara LUMSDON
Register: C G1
Entry: 96
Date: 19/05/1850

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 11:33

There is also this death???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Mary Ann Drummond
Name: Mary Ann Drummond
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1842 ***********
Registration district: Sunderland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 24
Page: 166

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 7 Aug 2012 11:49

results for Mary drummond marriages on the durham site list these two results

Surname Forename(s) Year District
COE John 1842 Durham Northern
DRUMMOND Mary 1842 Durham Northern


Surname Forename(s) Year District
DRUMMOND Mary 1842 Durham Northern
TODD Christopher 1842 Durham Northern

results for Margaret DRUMMOND


Surname Forename(s) Year District
DRUMMOND Margaret 1843 Durham Eastern
EBBLEWHITE John 1843 Durham Eastern


If the durham site returns no results try clearing cache then refresh browser and just use a surname with nothing in the forename box


Roy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Aug 2012 11:57

http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/MMWHIT69.html

(wonder if it's him on above list?, from google)

Chris :)

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 12:18

The 1842 death of Mary Ann does not fit with her being in the 1861 census
the 1869 death in June quarter means William re married within 3 months of her death which i suppose is possible
Looks like i can rule out the William Drummond marriage to Mary Drummond in 1842 at Durham
I am a descendant of Williams brother James also born Whitby 1819 also a mariner, family moved to Sunderland around 1826
Could be william on the Master mariners list

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 12:35

Looking back at all the replies to this post it looks like the Mary Davison marriage is the one as she was born Sunderland in 1817 which matches the 1861 census
Thanks for finding that marriage as i still can not come up with it anywhere
Thanks to everyone who has helped
Appologies Roy I think I have missed hitting the marrige button before got it now

Mary

Mary Report 7 Aug 2012 13:48

Sorry if this confuses matters regarding Mary A Drummond in 1861 wife of master marriner
1861 Bishop Wearmouth D2 > 55
Next door to Mary A is a John Potts age 29 also a seaman
William J Potts son
Susannah Potts wife 23. nee Drummond.

Susannah Drummond married John Potts 1858.
1851 West Sunderland D 2 >43
Mary Ann Drummond age 34 seamans wife
Susannah age 12 = 1839.

Same people?
1841 Bishop Wearmouth D3 > 2
Mary Drummond 25
Susannah 2?
Mary 4
Elizabeth 9 not sure of this one as that would make Mary 16 at birth of Elizabeth.

Maryb.

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 16:10


re-post
Is there a street address on the 41& 51 census to make a link
As i did not know of Williams 1st marriage i have not yet traced for children
I do know he had 1 child with 2nd wife Emma in 1870s
Elizabeth could be williams younger sister who was born 1831 as the 41 census does not state relationships
This would also mean the 1842 marriage may be wrong and William married earlier?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 17:47

1851 England Census
about Susannah Drummond
Name: Susannah Drummond
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Brown
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Drummond
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil parish: Sunderland
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: SPRING GARDEN LANE



Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: West Sunderland
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 205
Piece: 2397
Folio: 362
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
John Brown 41 NOT THE SAME HOUSEHOLD. THERE IS A LINE AFTER JOHN BROWN. aLSO HE IS UNMARRIED.


Mary Ann Drummond 34 SEAMANS WIFE MARRIED
Susannah Drummond 12


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 17:56

1841 for Mary and Susannah address is Laurence Street.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 18:04

Just to throw a spanner in the works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



spouse: William Drummond
child: James Drummond

name: James Drummond
gender: Male
birth date: 18 Oct 1836
birthplace: SUNDERLAND,DURHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: William Drummond **********************
mother's name: Mary Ann Taylor **************************
indexing project (batch) number: P00280-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 91114, 91115, 91116

AND

spouse: William Drummond
child: Mary Ann Drummond

name: Mary Ann Drummond
gender: Female
birth date: 02 Feb 1841
birthplace: SUNDERLAND,DURHAM,ENGLAND
father's name: William Drummond **********************
mother's name: Mary Ann Taylor *************************
indexing project (batch) number: P00280-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 91114, 91115, 91116

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 18:14

This is interesting............


spouse: John Potts
child: Thomas Henry Potts

groom's name: Thomas Henry Potts
groom's birth date: 1867
groom's birthplace: England
groom's age: 26
bride's name: Agnes King
bride's birth date: 1872
bride's birthplace: Sydney, N.S.W.
bride's age: 21
marriage date: 16 Dec 1893
marriage place: Mariner'S Church, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
groom's father's name: John Potts
groom's mother's name: Susannah Drummond
bride's father's name: Edwin King
bride's mother's name: Charlotte Dobell
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00388-8
system origin: Australia
source film number: 993781

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 19:44

Sorry for delay been to daughters for tea
Well you have been busy and very helpful M/F/G
Sring garden lane is also where Williams mother is living with her grandson Joseph who is the son of my ancester James ,Williams brother. So that looks very promising. The births of james in 1836 looks correct as he died 1841 and a Mary Ann also died young in 1842 With the mother being Mary Ann Taylor i now believe that is the marriage i am looking for, obviously 1836 or earlier and not the Mary Davison marriage
It also appears that Susannah's so Thomas Henry Potts moved to Australia
Thankyou so much you have been very very helpful

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 20:18

So the Mary Ann Drummond who died in 1842 could be the death of Willilam and Mary's daughter.

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 20:32

yes i believe that is probable
I have just been looking on a tree on mundia and it states susannah drummonds father is the john brown, probably from the1851 census do you think that is a mixup from an unclear census as i can not check the transcript unless i visit library, do you have access to pre 1837 marriages
hope you dont think i am being too pushy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 20:41

Not at all . I found the marriage in Australia on Familyserch .org which is free to use. They have changed it lately and I get a bit muddled with it. You used to be able to put in a name for the husband and wife's names and then find a child born to them and then find all the other children they had but you can't do that at the moment. They did say they would bring that search back later on. It is the Later Day Saints Site.

I have pm'd you.

drummo

drummo Report 7 Aug 2012 20:59

Got your pm I never looked on f/s because i never knew of the 1st marriage but i have just looked unfortunately theres no Susannahs birth to rule out the John Brown father bit in the tree i was looking at. I hope that is a misread mistake from the 51 census as you say there is a line seperating the 2 families

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Aug 2012 21:31

Yes it has been transcribed as John Brown Head but the house schedule is a different number.

Someone has taken and put it on their tree. see how easy it is to make a mistake.