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John didn't apparently return to see and acknowledge the info he 'desperately' wanted over a year ago..............so he won'd see your post, Nick

If you think it's worth it.......send a PM to try to make conytact

Annie Louisa Boorer b 1884 Brasted Kent m Francis (Frank ) Denton 1908 Abingdon district Berks.d 1935 Wallingford dist Berks.

Nick

Yep....and still no further!

Gins, As you say, all speculation at the moment.

My thinking was that Emily Boorer was an unmarried mother and that she was the daughter of Mary Ann Donton/Denton. (Think that the 1891 census has the family mistranscribed as Donton).

Mary Ann being married previously to William Boorer (married as Mary Ann Roffey) (note Astra's post of 1871 with Arther Roffey being a visitor in the household of the Borer family) This posting has an Emely Borer born c1867.

No birth reg for an Emily/Emely Boorer/Bowra/Borer in the Sevenoaks district.

Can't see any other sign of an Emily Boorer c1867 Hever after the 1871 census.

According to the 1881 census Mary Ann Denton was born in Hever Kent as were the Denton children.

In the 1881 census that I posted there were children:
James Denton c 1869
Kate Denton c1868
Harriet Denton c1872

In the posting of the 1871 census for the Borer family there were children:

James c1870
Cate c1868


I think these are James & Kate Denton in the 1881 census, taking their step-fathers name.

Second husband of Mary Ann being William Denton, marriage in 1877(Mary Ann being married as Bowra, mistranscription of the name Boorer).

John

Have you got Annies marriage certificate to check if the father is listed. Also the witnesses might give us a clue

If it were my family, getting the marriage certificate would be my next move

Well........the 'Donton' grandparents (of Annie) could be the fathers parents

Other wise, if Emily was a Boor* and her parents were 'Donton', it would mean she was married to Annies dad, which the poster has said, Emily was not married


......I presume he has the birth cert for Annie?


Edit: Its all speculation at the moment and Annies 'Grandparents' may not have been her grandparents at all?

Gins, if Annie Louise is with her grandparents in 1891

William & Mary Ann Donton

how can Thomas & Amelia Boorer be her grandparents?

1871 England Census
Name: Emily Boorer
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thos Boorer
Mother's Name: Amelia Boorer
Gender: Female
Where born: Lingfield, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lingfield
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: East Grinstead
Sub-registration district: East Grinstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 64
Piece: 1057
Folio: 54
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Boorer 41
Amelia Boorer 45
James Boorer 19
William Boorer 17
Martha Boorer 13
Emily Boorer 10
Alice Boorer 6
Mary Ann Boorer 2
And if this is Annies mother then it would explain why Annie is with grandparents in 1891

1891 England Census
Name: Emily Boorer
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lingfield, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 444
Folio: 69
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Lydia A Roberts 68
Emily Boorer 29
Alice R Leppard 19


1901 England Census
Name: Emily Boore
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lingfield, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Lingfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Godstone
Sub-registration district: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Piece: 632
Folio: 27
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Sydney Charles Austin 57
Sarah Susan Austin 61
Emily Agnes Austin 32
Lilian Austin 31
Neville Henry Austin 28
Emily Boore 40
Albert Roberts 16
Thomas Stratt 72

Births Sep 1860
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BOORER Emily E Grinstead 2b 113

Astra is this the couple that marry in 1902 E Grinstead?


1911 England Census
about Emily Potter
Name: Emily Potter
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Lingfield, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Lingfield Surrey
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Rushford Cottage, Station Road, Lingfield
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Godstone
Registration District Number: 38
Sub-registration district: Godstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 74
Piece: 3258
Household Members: Name Age
William Potter 62
Emily Potter 50
Emily Amelia Potter 7
George Francis Walker 34
Mary Ann White 37
Winifred Evelyn Brooker 20
Edith May Brown

Its a thought Chris :-)

Marriage:
Mary Ann Roffey
William Boorer
Sevenoaks 2a 619
Dec Q 1859

Last childs birth??

Harriet Roffey Boorer
Dec Q 1872
Sevenoaks 2a 536

Could this be Emily in 1881 recorded as Emma??

Emma Bowra c1867 Hever, General Domestic Servant
living at Bardox Farm Brasted Kent

There are 2 Emma Bowra's in this census both born Hever c1867 but only one birth reg in Sevonoaks for Emma Bowra between 1862-1870

Theres also a marriage in 1849 for William Boorer and Emma Denton


Marriages Jun 1849
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AGENT William E Grinstead 7 509
Boorer William E Grinstead 7 509
Denton Emma E Grinstead 7 509
Edginton Thomas E Grinstead 7 509
Hudson Edward E. Grinstead 7 509
Knight Susannah E Grinstead 7 509
Laker Ann E Grinstead 7 509
Martingale Caroline E Grinstead 7 509


Cant see them on the censuses except maybe Emma in 1841, born 1829, Lingfield

Possible marriage:

William Denton
Mary Ann Bowra
Sevenoaks 2a 883
Dec Q 1877

Possible Death for William Boorer ( husband of Mary Ann)

William Boorer
aged 51
Dec Q 1872
Sevenoaks 2a 292

This looks like Emily's baptism

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JQJX-FJ3

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1908
Registration district: Abingdon
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume Number: 2c
Page Number: 625


1911 England Census
Name: Annie Louisa Denton
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Brasted, Kent, England
Civil parish: Abingdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Mayotts Road, Ock St, Abingdon, Berks
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1909
Occupation: Household Duties
Registration district: Abingdon
Registration District Number: 117
Sub-registration district: Abingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 327
Piece: 6460
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Denton 31
Annie Louisa Denton 27
Vera Kate Denton 2
Elsie Denton 11/12


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Annie L Denton
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1935
Age at Death: 51
Registration district: Wallingford
Inferred County: Berkshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 425




Another Denton connection

BORER, William Head M 40 1831 Surrey VIEW
BORER, Mary A Wife F 30 1841 Kent VIEW
BORER, Elizabeth Daughter F 10 1861 Kent VIEW
BORER, Allice Daughter F 8 1863 Kent VIEW
BORER, William Son M 6 1865 Kent VIEW
BORER, Emley Daughter F 4 1867 Kent VIEW
BORER, Cate Daughter F 3 1868 Kent VIEW
BORER, James Son M 1 1870 Kent VIEW
ROFFREY, Arther Visitor M 14 1857 Kent VIEW

Piece: 925 Folio: 110 Page: 16 Registration District: Sevenoaks Civil Parish: Hever Municipal Borough: Address: Cottage, Hever County: Kent

A possibility???
Can someone post the details for Emley Borer c1867 Hever Kent in the 1871 census with mother Mary H

There is this family in the 1881 census which could be the grandparents.

It might be worth trying to follow this family back and see if you can find an Emily Boorer connection to Mary Ann Donton/Denton

Address: Toys Hill Cottage (possibly Tops Hill) Brasted Sevenoaks Kent

William Denton c1835 Chiddingstone Kent. Occ Ag Lab
Mary Ann c1842 Hever Kent
James c1869 Hever Kent
Kate c1868 Hever Kent
Harriet c1872 Hever Kent

I've been following the Emily born in Lingfield too. She doesn't marry until 1902 when she weds William Potter in East Grinstead.

What is interesting is that she works around that area all of her life and that is where we find Annie in 1901 working as a servant.