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I am trying to trace my grandfather and his family before him on his MARKINSON side.

His name was Gordon Richard MARKINSON b9/12/1900 - 1971 and his father before him was George Markinson. George was a horse trader from Highbury in Islington, London. That's as much as we know of him.

Gordon had a brother Frederick who served in the Green Howards during WWII and was killed in action. There was also a sister, Rosemary Markinson who was also killed along with the rest of the Markinson family during the Blitz.

Gordon was married to my grandmother Nora Reddington in july - Sept 1945. Nora was originally from Co.Mayo, Ireland and born in 1913. It is from here my family originate.

It is believed that Gordon may have had a family back in London to a marriage he held whilst married to Nora Reddington for which he served a 2 year prison sentence somewhere between 1947 - 1950.

Is it possible to access prison records to see if there are any further details for name changes as a result of this? Name changes be the result of not being able to find anything for the above in which case I will never find ancestors on this side.

Gordon claimed his mother had connections with and family originations in France.

There is a birth record for John Frederick Markinson born 1896 Leeds, Yorkshire, but I cannot access these records as yet so cannot see what info this contains.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Welcome to the boards.

Does this mean you don't have your grandfather's birth certificate?

What about his marriage cert?


Ozi

This is a possibility as Lucy, William jnr, Elizabeth & George are all born London, Middx.

1861 England Census
Name: George Markinson
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Markinson
Mother's Name: Lucy Markinson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 13 Somerset St

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds

Piece: 3381
Folio: 9
Page Number: 12

Household Members: Name Age
William Markinson 30 - bootmaker; born Leeds
Lucy Markinson 30
William Markinson 11
Elizabeth Markinson 9
George Markinson 5
Emily Markinson 3
Ellen Markinson 1


Deaths Dec 1873 Markinson Lucy 47 Leeds 9b 339

1871 England Census
Name: George Mackinson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Mackinson
Mother's Name: Lucy Mackinson
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 27 Somerset St [during the mid 1800s house numbers were formalised and so they could be living at the same place, just the number has changed.]

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: North Leeds

Piece: 4553
Folio: 110
Page Number: 19

Household Members: Name Age
William Mackinson 40 - Shoe maker
Lucy Mackinson 40
Elizabeth Mackinson 19 - nail maker
George Mackinson 15 - errand boy
Emily Mackinson 13 - nurse
Ellen Mackinson 11 - scholar
Mary Ann Mackinson 9 - scholar
John Mackinson 6 - scholar
Henry Mackinson 4 - scholar
Eliza Mackinson 2

Do you actually have the 1945 marriage cert ?

Civil Registration event: Death
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Name: MARKINSON, Gordon Richard
Registration district: Leeds
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1971
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of birth: 9 December 1900
Volume no: 2C
Page no: 731

Can not find a Rosemary Markinson on CWGC as a death in WW2

Bummer! Looks like this George may have died.

Deaths Mar 1874 MARKINSON George 18 Leeds 9b 316

She isn't showing on freeBMD either.

Not finding a Frederick Markinson on CWGC either

Father is not George

Name: John Frederick Markinson
Birth Date: 26 May 1896
Parish: Leeds, St Peter
Baptism Date: 14 Jun 1896
Father's Name: John Frederick Markinson - occupation of fitter
Mother's Name: Emma Isabel Markinson


Name: John F Markinson
Birth Date: abt 1896
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1941
Age at Death: 45
Registration district: Lower Agbrigg
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 166

1911 census transcription details for: 18 Harewood St Leeds
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN26944 RG78PN1547 RD500 SD2 ED1 SN69
Reg. District: Leeds
Sub District: North Leeds
Parish: Leeds
Enum. District: 1
Address: 18 Harewood St Leeds
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MARKINSON, Emma I Wife Married F 43 1868 Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Lucy T Daughter Single F 18 1893 Student Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Emily Daughter Single F 16 1895 Shop Assistant Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, John Son M 14 1897 Errand Boy Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Arthur Son M 14 1897 Railway Cart Boy Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Mary Daughter F 11 1900 School Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Charlie Son M 9 1902 Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Walter Son M 7 1904 Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Isabella Daughter F 3 1908 Yorks Leeds
MARKINSON, Henry Son M 1 1910 Yorks Leeds



Births Jun 1864
MARKINSON John Frederick Leeds 9b 408

Marriages Dec 1888
MARKINSON John Frederick Leeds 9b 658
ROGERSON Emma Isabella Leeds 9b 658

Deaths Mar 1919
MARKINSON John F 54 Leeds 9b 800

So where has the information about the father being George Markinson, a horse trader from Highbury, come from.

How do you know that a brother and sister died in WW2

These are the only Markinson deaths 1937-47

Record Emma I Markinson abt 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar 1937 Leeds North Yorkshire West Riding

Arthur Markinson abt 1872 Apr-May-Jun 1937 Rotherham Yorkshire West Riding

Isaac Markinson abt 1874 Jul-Aug-Sep 1937 Hendon Middlesex

Jacob Markinson abt 1878 Jul-Aug-Sep 1946 Hackney London

John F Markinson abt 1896 Jul-Aug-Sep 1941 Lower Agbrigg Yorkshire West Riding

View Record Eunice Markinson abt 1918 Jan-Feb-Mar 1941 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding

Only 1 Markinson death in WW2 and that's Eunice above.

Name: MARKINSON, EUNICE
Rank: Civilian
Service Number
Date of Death: 13/12/1940
Age: 23
Regiment / Service: Civilian War Dead
Service Country: United Kingdom
Grave /
Memorial Reference
Cemetery / Memorial Name: SHEFFIELD, COUNTY BOROUGH

Nothing is adding up at the moment.

Only the marriage and death in that name. Strange that he married at age 45 ish so might have been a previous marriage.

So back to square one as to where the information on father, brother and sister came from

GB, why don't you think George is his father? There's no Gordon in the 1911 (or the 1901 for that family).


Ozi

Ozi

Not sure what I think at the moment as nothing is making any sense.

Maureen

Tried to approach this from a different angle in case father died when he was young and mother married a Markinson but no joy with that at the moment


Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
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Dancey Gordon Richard Pancras 1b 154

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Births Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Avery Gordon Richard E Plymouth 5b 210
Gayfer Gordon Richard Mutford 4a 1080
Pellant Gordon Richard St. Albans 3a 705

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Births Sep 1901 (>99%)
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BARCLAY Gordon Richard Edmonton 3a 599

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Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
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SUTHERWOOD Gordon Richard Brentford 3a 188


Ruled all of those out as deaths can be found in those names




Really need some feedback from the poster as to where the information on other family members came from