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Hi Vera and Mary,

He was an orphan, so may well have been adopted.

Thanks for your efforts.

Derek

So his age would fit 1884 but the parents are a mystery.
I wonder if they were who he lived with in Canada!

He maybe had been adopted like Sarah Belmont.

Maryb

Just in case your friend does not have this. The original marriage documntation has

James Belmont aged 21, residing at time of marriage at Kings County, born England, occupation Steamboat, parents Edgar M and Aggie.

married

Agnes Irene Cameron aged 22 residing at ? Browns Flats, NB

Vera

Thank Maryb,

I will forward your ideas to my friend in Canada.

Many thanks for help it is much appreciated.

Derek

The more I read this I'am sure James Richard Belmont/Balmont is connected.

He was born dec 1884 and Christened by Richard and Caroline 1885 the same couple who had sarah Ann 1883.

Richard Balmont/Belmont @ 1866 married Caroline Cummings 1883 in Bristol.

No sign whatsoever for any of them 1891.
1901Census Great Ann Street.
Caroline has daughter Susan age 1(Susan Louisa Belmont 1899 Bristol)
Caroline married but Richard is with brother James Thomas Balmont born @ 1868 Bristol in Wales.
On that census Richard married.

Caroline died 1905
1911 Susan inmate at Childrens Home 862,Fishponds Rd Bristol.
1911 Richard still at brothers in wales now he is a widow.

Richard's parents Thomas and Elizabeth.
Caroline's dad James.

Maryb.

Dear All,

Now can confirm that 1911 census details are correct. The family believe that James was a orphan and he sailed from Bristol to Canada to work on a farm. Also he was born in Dec. 1882,he drowned in the St. Lawrence river in Canada onboard the Ocean Hawk which was a tug boat that sank with all aboard in 1925.
He married Irene Agnes Cameron and they had 5-6 children one being Florence Irene.

Regs Derek

Thanks Vera, could be another thread to follow. Regs Derek

Patchem/Derek

The original emigration record could read aged 5 for Sarah. Its not very clear.
I gather the children were not sent out until the age of 4 from something I read during my look ups.

Vera

Many Thanks Vera will pass this info on to see if it helps with the search.Regs Derek

This is the only Sarah Belmont showing -has the age been mis-recorded on the Canadian records?
Births Dec 1883
Belmont Sarah Ann Barton R 6a 163

???
1891 Census of Canada
Sarah Belmont Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 7
Birth Year: abt 1884 Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Adp D
Religion: Methodist French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: England Mother's Birth Place: England
Province: Ontario
District Number: 73 District: Hastings East Subdistrict: Thurlow
William Gates 23 Ontario
oooo Father's Birth Place: Quebec Mother's Birth Place: Quebec
Eleanor Gates 21 Ontario
Sarah Belmont 7
(Ancestry has these as same household, but not so
Harold Yates 26
Eliza Yates 25
William Yates 12
John Yates 9
Arthur Yates 5
Nilson Yates 4)
Source Citation: Year: 1891; Census Place: Thurlow, Hastings East, Ontario; Roll: T-6342; Family No: 106.

http://jubilation.uwaterloo.ca/~marj/genealogy/children/Organizations/bristol.html

This site relates to children who emigrated to Canada thru the Bristol Emigration Society based in Barton Regis, Bristol.

This little girl possibly a relative of the James above. Image records from Canadian Emigration Home, Bristol for Mr Wallace ? for Montreal.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Sarah Belmont Name: Sarah Belmont
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Date of Arrival: 22 Jul 1889
Vessel: Texas
Search Ship Database: View the 'Texas' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec and Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Avonmouth, England; Bristol, England
Roll: C-4537

Vera

??????? along with other children of different names, there is a note to say 'from Mrs Foster for S Gardiner, St John, NB.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about James Balmont Name: James Balmont
Gender: Male
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Date of Arrival: 28 Jun 1890
Vessel: Texas
Search Ship Database: View the 'Texas' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec and Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: Avonmouth, England; Bristol, England
Roll: C-4537


Samme Gardiner - Occupation looks like 'Immigration Agent'

1891 Census of Canada
about Samme Gardiner Name: Samme Gardiner
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 77
Birth Year: abt 1814
Birthplace: New Brunswick
Relation to Head of House: Head
Religion: Methodist
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: New Brunswick
Mother's Birth Place: New Brunswick
Province: New Brunswick
District Number: 20
District: Saint John City
Subdistrict: Queen Ward
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samme Gardiner 77
Lizzie L Gardiner 33
Mary Elbin 19

Vera

He doesn't show up on the 1901 census in Canada.

Thank you all .

I will send info across to friend and see if it sparks further information. If info so far is confirmed, it will give a better route to searches in UK records.

Strange as nothing showing for James Reginald in births etc

Also nothing other than the birth of James Richard Belmont

Details could be a match Andy. I will pass on to friend to see if any other names on census, fit in with her family tree. She says he was an orphan and probably went to Canada to seek his fortune.

In your opening post you say he was believed to be an orphan was he ever in an orphanage?

If so try contacting Barnados/Quarriers who may have some info for you.

I traced my GG who at the age of 13 was sent to Canada by Barnados as a home boy and I have a copy of the page on the register which has given me lots of info.

The whole page on 1911 Canada has been completed NB. COuld just be a lazy enumerator.

Andy

Reginald is what i was told his middle name was.

Hi Patchem, my friend says the family are sure he came from Gloucestershire probably Bristol area. Would he have just put his birthplace in Canada on the census in error ?