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Just one more thought. Might be worth seeing who registered the death for Irene - no guarantees it is the same person but a fair chance I would say:

Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Coppard Irene Weeden Bromley 2a 1000

Deaths Mar 1941 (>99%)
Coppard Irene 17 Maidstone 2a 2986

Jan

Thank you. :-)

She had 3 children (boys) that died........ I am thinking she wouldn't have remarried as Bromley library stated she had another boy Horace after my grandad in 1918 and then Irene Coppard in 1923???

But like I said i think she a bit unstable???

So much more confusing?

Could she have remarried?

1911 census original states she had 2 children but both died

1925 when she signed papers for my grandad to be adopted :-(

That is very strange. I have just seen this. Amazing :-D

So that settles it, with all your info she must be Ethel Harriet and for some reason dropped her middle name when she married.
I must say I can't find an obvious death for her either. When do you last have evidence that she was alive?
Jan

????

Name: Horace Weeden
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 14 Jan 1906
Baptism/Christening Place: Farnborough, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ethel Weeden
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01258-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 2145474
Reference Number: item 10 p

Court for Divorce and Matrimonial Causes, later Su... J 77/1816/6611
Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard. Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd]. . Divorce Court File: 6611. Appellant: Frederick Henry Coppard. Respondent: Ethel Coppard.
Date: 1921

(from below link)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Chris :)

Yes she was.

But she did have a few boys that died and I think she may have had a boy Horace Weeden 1905 before married....

Yes I think that may be the wrong one!

Thank you for your help.

This is the birth for Ethel Harriet:

Births Mar 1885 (>99%)
Weeden Ethel Harriet Bromley 2a __7

Was she married when she had your grandfather?

Jan

Best I can see, though age a bit out:

Name: Ethel Coppard
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1030

Jan

I think it has her middle name as Harriet on my grandad's papers?? He had an adoption paper......

1901

Name: Joseph Weeden
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Weeden
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England
Civil parish: St Pauls Cray
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauline
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Bromley
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Piece: 694
Folio: 159
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Weeden 57
Mary Weeden 47
Etta Weeden 21
Daniel Weeden 14
Arthur Weeden 12
Ethel Weeden 16
Horace Weeden 5
Violet Weeden 7 Weeks

Name: Ethel Coppard
[Ethel Weeden]
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: St Mary Cray, Kent, England
Civil parish: St Pauls Cray
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Meadow View, St Pauls Cray, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Bromley
Registration District Number: 42
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 280
Piece: 3717
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Weeden 66
Ethel Coppard 27
Daniel Richard Weeden 24
Arthur Edward Weeden 21
Horace Edward Weeden 15
Voliet Horance Weeden 10


No evidence to support the idea that she had a second forename

You see I have also found that some of her DOB's alter???

??

Deaths Jun 1948

Coppard Frederick H 62 Cuckfield 5h 158

Deaths Mar 1955

COPPARD Frederick H 61 Folkestone 5b 684


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