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Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 18:22

I have got stuck unfortunately. Andrew Duncan (1955), son of George Brian and Alma Duncan. I am trying to find out further back from George Brians dad, William Duncan who married Frances Eastwood.

I beleive William may have been from Sunderland, but the trails to his father and mother collapse, there are however links to the ship building industry. I am in too deep i fear.

Can anyone help?

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 18:33

Have you got certificates for marriages and births, and some indication of when William Duncan was born?
Thanks

Added:
For ref:
Marriages Sep 1926
Duncan William G Eastwood Sculcoates 9d 375
Eastwood Frances M Duncan Sculcoates 9d 375

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 21 Aug 2012 18:33

Hello - welcome to the boards

As these are living people suggest you repost on Find Living Relatives and delete this

Ann

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 18:36

Ann,
Unknown is looking for ancestors.

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 18:39

Is this William?
1901 England Census
William C G Duncan
Age: 5 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Son
Father's Name: William H Duncan
Mother's Name: Louisa Duncan
Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Hull Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 175 Piece: 4503 Folio: 97 Page Number: 25
William H Duncan 27 Hull Photographer
Louisa Duncan 40 Grimsby
xxxxWilliam C G Duncan 5 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4503; Folio: 97; Page: 25.

Added:
No, he dies in 1911, so wrong family.

This one?
William G Duncan
Birth Date: abt 1902
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1931
Age at Death: 29
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 409

Mary

Mary Report 21 Aug 2012 18:54

1911
66 Walmesley St Hull.West Sculcoates
Edward Osborne Eastwood 1876 telephone night operator
Frances 1875 married 13years
frances Muriel Eastwood 1905
Ann Elizabeth loftus 1839 mum in law widowed.

Maryb.

Mary

Mary Report 21 Aug 2012 19:00

Frances M Duncan married 1934 to Arthur G Pocock
Frances Muriel Pocock born 31/12/1905 died 1989 in Hull.

Maryb

Mary

Mary Report 21 Aug 2012 19:24

William George Duncan died 11/2/1931 of 30 beeford Grove inglemire Lane Kingston Upon Hull
Probate 26/2/1931 to widow Frances Muriel Duncan £148 15s.

Maryb.

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 19:42

So, William George Duncan married Frances Muriel Duncan (1926 i think) and died in 1931 leaving Frances Muriel Duncan a widow??

Then Francis Muriel Duncan went on to marry Arthur G Pocock??

Sorry for been so, erm, stupid, im new to this and its messing with my head the further i go back. I hadn't realised that William George Duncan had died so early, 1895 I THINK, TO 1931.

It is everything from this man William G Duncan that is confusing, i just cant find where he came from.

I really do appreciate your answers so far, a big big help.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 21 Aug 2012 19:57

Hi is this is death

Death Record Name William G Duncan
Year of Registration 1931
Quarter of Registration Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Hull
Registration County Yorkshire
Age at Death: 29
Volume Number 9D
Volume Page 409


would make his birth about 1902

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 20:17

You see i thought he'd been born in 1895, but now i think i may have been barking up the wrong tree i shall have a rumage. thing is i donk have a clue what his mothers maiden name was

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 20:33

Have you got his marriage certificate (for his Father's name)?

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 20:44

No unfortunately. Everyone is dead on that side of the family, and no one ever saved documents in the family. I wish they had. I wish stuff like that was easily obtainable. :-(

patchem

patchem Report 21 Aug 2012 21:21

The marriage certificate IS easily obtainable.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

The reference for the marriage is in my first post.

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 21:50

At a huge cost i see

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 21 Aug 2012 21:59

hi bit of long shot here but could this be a possible


1911 Census Household RecordHousehold information
Address 35 Booth Street Sunderland
Parish Sunderland
Town Sunderland
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 3 Rooms
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN30161 RG78PN1740 RD555 SD1 ED18 SN132
Administrative County Durham
Registration District Sunderland
Registration Sub District Sunderland West
Enumeration District 18

Householder 1
Name William Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Occupation Fitter Ships Engin
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Engine Works
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 2
Name Alice Barbara Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 19 Years
Total Children Born Alive 8
Children Still Living 6
Children Who Have Died 2
Gender F
Age 38
Estimated Year of Birth 1873
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 3
Name Florence Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1894
Occupation General Servant
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 4
Name William Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Apprentice Fitter
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry West More Engine Works
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Name George Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 12
Estimated Year of Birth 1899
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 6
Name Annie Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Durham Sunderland

Householder 7
Name Eva Duncan
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 10 Months
Estimated Year of Birth 1911
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 21 Aug 2012 22:04

same family in 1901


1901 Census Household RecordHousehold information
Address 39 Booth St
Civil Parish Sunderland
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Lukes
Parliamentary Borough or Division Sunderland
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Sunderland
Administrative County Durham

Householder 1
Name Alice Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 1
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Alice Barbara Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 28
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name Florance Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 7
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name George Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 5
Name William Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 30
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Ship Engine Fitter
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 6
Name William Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 5
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Householder 7
Name William Duncan
Relation to Head of Family Father
Condition as to Marriage Widower
Age Last Birthday 62
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Ship Joiner
Employment Status
Where Born Sunderland Durham
Language
Infirmity

Paul

Paul Report 21 Aug 2012 22:11

wow, thats a lot of effort you've gone to. i will keep you up-dated for i have ordered william g duncan and francis eastwood marriage certificate to get the father and familly names.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 21 Aug 2012 22:11

Paul, when you say huge cost, which price did you look at?

The cost of a full certificate, including postage, is £9.25 if you use the standard service.

The cost of a commemorative certificate, or the priority service is £23.40.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 21 Aug 2012 22:15

hi paul was just a long shot i went with connection to ship buildingas the father on household is ships engine fitter and on the 1901williams father is also a ships joiner
but i could be wrong
good luck
PP :-)