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Susanne - you do not tell us when or where?

Just to give us a start - one of the marriages you mention?

Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
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Hill William Poplar 1c 917 ***
Kilgour Hannah Eliza Poplar 1c 917 ***
Still Frederick George Poplar 1c 917
Thornton Rosina Amelia Poplar 1c 917

Also, you have accidentally posted this twice - could you delete the other one please to save duplication of research.

Thanks

Dea x

Marriages Jun 1919 (>99%)
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Castle Bertha M James W. Ham 4a 812
Hill Hannah E Wren W.Ham 4a 812 ********
James Charles E Castle W.Ham 4a 812
Wren James W Hill W.Ham 4a 812 *********

Dea x

What else do you know about George please?

What makes you think he was born in Yorkshire?

How have you got back to him?

Dea x

Why yorkshire? His Bro married in the south of England

have found a birth register listing for son George Christopher Wren 25/05/1907 Ecclesall Bierlow, West Riding Yorkshire. I have list of his 7 bros & 1 sister. My relative says the family memory knows they "all" came from Yorkshire but she's not got any other information. George William Wren's wife was Lilian Elizabeth (we think) and he had a brother James William Wren who married Hannah E Wren (maiden name: Kilgour, 1st marriage to Hill then to Wren). So interwoven I've got lost. Have deleted other entry as requested. Your help is so very much appreciated.

Could this be George's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1921 (>99%)
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Coote Lilian Watson W.Ham 4a 59
Grubb Elizabeth R L Wren W.Ham 4a 59 *** ?????
Watson Walter Coote W.Ham 4a 59
Wren George W Grubb W.Ham 4a 59 *******

Dea x

Whose son do you think this is?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: George Christopher Wren
Birth Date: 25 May 1907
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1973
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Redbridge
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5d
Page: 1771


Name: George Christoper Wren
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1907
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 384

I am not sure where George Christopher comes in if you are looking for George William ???

You say you have a list of 'his' 7 brothers and 1 sister - who's siblings are these please (i.e. which George??) and can you post them for us?

Dea x

Please can you help us to help you by telling us how you worked back to to George William

Is one of his children your direct line?

And it is vital that you provide some date info

George W married Lilian in 1921 in West Ham

It is unlikely in the extreme that George Christopher was his son

To help find George William as a child, can you please let us know the names of his brothers and sister.

Do you know for sure that George Christopher Wren was the son of George William? Is this the same George Christopher Wren who died 1973 in Redbridge, Gt.London?

Does anyone have the marriage certificate for James and Hannah (as this would give his father's name)?


Just noticed, you beat me to it Dea and Reggie.

George Christopher Wren married Kathleen Hill 06/02/1937. Reggie is right about birth & death details for George Christopher Wren. It's really his father George William Wren married (?) Lilian Elizabeth but don't know any more about them. Tks again. Sue

Ancestry links THIS to the 1921 marriage

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: George William Wren
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1895
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1895
Father's Name: William Wren
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Wren
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


AND this
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: George William Wren
Birth Date: 7 Feb 1895
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1977
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1311

What documentary evidence do you have to support the suggestion that George Christopher's father was George William?

The 1921 marriage is George W. Wren to Elizabeth R.L. Grubb

Here's what I've got.
Kathleen E Hill (b.21/09/07 Poplar) married George Christopher Wren (b.25/05/1907) on 06/02/1937.
George William Wren (father of GC Wren) was married to Lilian Elizabeth ?? but no date avail. He died in Ypres WW1. Then his brother (James William Wren) lodged with & married Kathleen E Hill's mother (Hannah Elizabeth Hill) in 1919 at W. Ham, Essex 4a 812. Told you it was a mess. :-)

You haven't told us how you know the identity of George C's father.

Please do so

These are all the G Wrens on CWGC

Which is the one you say was George C's father?

Some clearly do not qualify.........


WREN, GEORGE Private 5369 13/07/1916 27 Yorkshire Regiment United Kingdom L. 34. KEMMEL CHATEAU MILITARY CEMETERY
WREN, GEORGE Private G/4620 28/09/1915 24 Middlesex Regiment United Kingdom Panel 99 to 101. LOOS MEMORIAL
WREN, GEORGE Private G/6417 03/11/1916 20 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) United Kingdom Pier and Face 5 D and 6 D. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
WREN, GEORGE JOHN Private 36504 17/02/1917 36 Royal Berkshire Regiment United Kingdom Pier and Face 11 D. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL
WREN, GEORGE ALEXANDER Private 131918 17/10/1918 19 Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) United Kingdom Panel 10. VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL
WREN, G A Gunner 46207 15/09/1916 19 Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom IV. C. 73. HEILLY STATION CEMETERY, MERICOURT-L'ABBE
WREN, G Private 21518 23/04/1916 Border Regiment United Kingdom A. 20. 1. ST. SEVER CEMETERY, ROUEN
WREN, G Gunner 167211 23/04/1917 Royal Field Artillery United Kingdom I. G. 6. ST. NICOLAS BRITISH CEMETERY
WREN, G Private 275433 24/08/1918 London Regiment (Royal Fusiliers) United Kingdom II. F. 67. BRONFAY FARM MILITARY CEMETERY, BRAY-SUR-SOMME
WREN, G B Private 37920 27/04/1917 Northumberland Fusiliers United Kingdom III. E. 8. BROWN'S COPSE CEMETERY, ROEUX
WREN, GLADSTONE Private 9108 08/07/1916 24 Northamptonshire Regiment United Kingdom Pier and Face 11 A and 11 D. THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

If George C is your relative's 'line', buying the birth cert would be his/her best bet as a basis for factual research