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Thanks for all your help. I have replied to some of you individually by message. It would appear Choccy has found Frederick born 1836.

Although this does call into question the 'marriage' with Beatrice in 1886. Beatrice was born in 1863 and still having children in 1903.

If anyone has access to the baptisms I would appreciate a look up for a Frederick John Minners Lowry born 1860 St George Southwark. This could be the Frederick who married Beatrice. Their dates of birth are more compatible.

1836 Frederick John Miner Lowry could be 1860 Frederick John Minners Lowry dad.

Thanks for all your help.

always respond on here rather than by message - much better :-)

Lynette says the one I posted for Frederick seems to be the correct one

1841

RG number: HO107
Piece: 713
Book/Folio: 8/5
Page: 3
Reg. District: Stepney
Sub District: Mile End Old Town, Lower
Parish: Stepney
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets
Address: Pleasant Row Pleasant Place, Stepney, Mile End Old Town, Lower, Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex



LOWRY, Edward M 27 1814 (occupation - Saddler)
LOWRY, Sarah F 24 1817 Middlesex
>>>>>LOWRY, Frederick M 4 1837 Middlesex
LOWRY, Emily F 3 1838 Middlesex
LOWRY, Edward M 1 1840 Middlesex

Beatrice E Innes
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Bermondsey,? London
census: 1891 England


name: Beatrice E Innes
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Female
age: 7
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Bermondsey, London
record type: Household
registration district: St Olave Southwark
sub-district: St James Bermondsey
ecclesiastical parish: St Annes
civil parish: Bermondsey
county: London, Middlesex

Frederick Lowry
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1843 Stepney,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 Bermondsey,? London,? Middlesex,? England


name: Frederick Lowry
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 58
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Stepney, London
record type: Household
registration district: St Olave Southwark
sub-district: Bermondsey
ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
civil parish: Bermondsey
county: London, Middlesex

same occupation as 1901 -


1881

RG number: RG11
Piece: 561
Folio: 130
Page: 33
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark
Sub District: St Mary Magdalen
Parish: Bermondsey
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 13, Grange Walk, Bermondsey
County: London, Surrey



LOWRY, Frederick Head Widower M 45 1836 Harness Maker
Stepney, Middlesex
LOWRY, Frederick John Son Single M 21 1860 Harness Maker
Bermondsey, Surrey

this looks like Frederick (note one of his christian names) -


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Frederick John Miner Lowry
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1836
Baptism Date: 25 Dec 1836
Father's Name: Edward Weston Lowry
Mother's Name: Sarah Lowry
Parish or Poor Law Union: St George in the East
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers


Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint George In The East, Register of baptisms, P93/GEO, Item 016.

is this beatrice 1911
LOWRY, Beatrice Ellen Head Widow F 47 1864 Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, Beatrice Ellen Daughter Single F 24 1887 Book Folder Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, John Miners Son Single M 22 1889 Printers Packer Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, Stanley Son Single M 20 1891 Ironmonger's Labourer Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Envelope Folder Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, Fred Son M 14 1897 Messenger Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, Edwin Son M 10 1901 School Bermondsey VIEW
LOWRY, George Henry Son M 7 1904 School Bermondsey VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 1867

Reference: RG14PN1867 RG78PN67 RD24 SD2 ED2 SN270

Registration District: St Olave (Bermondsey)

Sub District: Bermondsey

Enumeration District: 2

Parish: Bermondsey

Address: 6 Edmund Place Kipling Street B Dsey S E

County: London

can only find this one in 1861

LOWRY, George Head Married M 38 1823 Furniture Dealer
Tregony, Cornwall VIEW
LOWRY, Mary Wife Married F 38 1823
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
LOWRY, Fredrick Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Furniture Dealer
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
LOWRY, Julia Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
LOWRY, George Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
LOWRY, Albert Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
LOWRY, Thomas Son M 1 1860
Marylebone, Middlesex VIEW
DISSON, Elizabeth Mother In Law Widow F 62 1799
Bloomsbury, Middlesex VIEW

Piece: 78

Folio: 160

Page: 3

Registration District: Marylebone

Civil Parish: St Marylebone

Municipal Borough: St Marylebone

Address: 15, Homer Street, St Marylebone

County: London

I am trying to find info on Frederick Lowry born c1843 in Stepney.

I believe he 'married' Beatrice Innes in around 1886. They went on to have:

Beatrice Lowry in 1887
John Mine(o)rs Lowry in 1888
Stanley Lowry in 1891
May Lowry in 1894
Frederick Lowry in 1897
Edwin Lowry in 1899
George Lowry in 1903

All the children were born in Bermondsey, London, sometimes recorded as St Olave, Southwark.

In the 1901 census he is described as a head of the household at 5 Edmund Place, Bermonsdey age 58 and married. Occupation, harness maker.

I believe Frederick died in 1903 at St Olave age 60.

I can find no record Frederick's birth in 1843 nor the marriage to Beatrice Innes which I believe took place c1886.

Any information about this family would be most appreciated.

I believe Beatrice Innes' parents were Robert Innes (born Hampshire c1830) and Emma (no maiden name known as present) c1832 in Berkshire.

I have no information whatsoever about Frederick Lowry born 1843 nor his parents/siblings etc.

I would appreciate any assistance, I have come up against a brick wall and it is most frustrating. Fingers crossed, thanks.

Lyn