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Looking for John Booth on 1881 census

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Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 22:42

Hello,

I'm looking for John Booth and/or his wife Sarah on the 1881 census.

Based on the 1871 census when they were living in Worcester John Booth was born about 1838 in Broseley, Shropshire and was a tanner leather merchant, his wife Sarah was born about 1841 in Thurlston Grange, Derbyshire. Their son Henry was also with them. He was born in St. Johns, Worcester in about 1865.

I found Henry Booth on the 1881 census living in Islington, London but I can't find his parents. I couldn't find any evidence that they died before the census either.

I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

patchem

patchem Report 6 Sep 2012 22:48

Have you got Henry's marriage certificate and, if so, does it describe his Father as deceased?
Thanks

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 22:51

No I don't have Henry's marriage certificate. He was only 17 at the time of the 1881 census and was living as a boarder.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Sep 2012 22:51

1851 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address High Street
Parish Broseley
District Madeley, Broseley
Administrative County Shropshire

Householder 1
Name Henry Booth
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Butcher & Cattle Dealer
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 2
Name Ann Booth
Age 46
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 3
Name Louisa Booth
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1833
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 4
Name John Booth
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 5
Name Clara Ann Booth
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 6
Name Ellen J Booth
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1845
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

Householder 7
Name Eliza Lewis
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1828
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Occupation Dress Maker
Birth Place Willey
Birth County Salop

Householder 8
Name John Boulton
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1831
Relationship to Head of Household Aprentice
Occupation App
Birth Place Lindley
Birth County Salop

Householder 9
Name Mary Ann Gething
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation House St
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Salop

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Sep 2012 22:53

1861 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Chapel Street
Parish Broseley
District Madeley, Broseley
Administrative County Shropshire

Householder 1
Name Henry Booth
Age 56
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Farmer & Castle Dealer
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 2
Name Ann Booth
Age 56
Estimated Year of Birth 1805
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 3
Name John Booth
Age 23
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Cattle Dealer
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 4
Name Clara Ann Booth
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation No Occupation
Birth Place Broseley
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 5
Name Lydia Southwick
Age 2
Estimated Year of Birth 1859
Relationship to Head of Household Granddaughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Chelmarsh
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 6
Name Susan Worth
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1839
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Dressmaker
Birth Place Shrewsbury
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 7
Name William Evans
Age 39
Estimated Year of Birth 1822
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Farmer
Birth Place Cluddley
Birth County Shropshire

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Sep 2012 22:54

For ref

1871 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address Bransford Road
Parish St John
District Worcester, Worcester, West
Administrative County Worcestershire
Householder 1
Name John Booth
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Shropshire
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 2
Name Sarah Booth
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 3
Name Henry Booth
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Worcestershire
Birth County Worcestershire
Householder 4
Name Elizabeth Gurney
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place Herefordshire
Birth County Herefordshire

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Sep 2012 22:55

Here's his marriage certificate. His father is deceased but that doesn't help with the 1881.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Henry Booth
Name: Henry Booth
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Spouse Name: Emma Jane Rooke
Spouse Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jan 1895
Parish: St George the Martyr
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Booth, tanner (dec)
Spouse Father Name: John Rooke
Register Type: Parish Register

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 22:55

Thanks for that but I've already found John Booth on the 1841 to 1871 censuses. It's 1881 that I'm after.

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Sep 2012 22:57

1871 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Bransford Road
Parish St John
District Worcester, Worcester, West
Administrative County Worcestershire

Householder 1
Name John Booth
Age 33
Estimated Year of Birth 1838
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation
Birth Place Shropshire
Birth County Shropshire

Householder 2
Name Sarah Booth
Age 30
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Derbyshire
Birth County Derbyshire

Householder 3
Name Henry Booth
Age 6
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Worcestershire
Birth County Worcestershire


Householder 4
Name Elizabeth Gurney
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1852
Relationship to Head of Household Servant
Occupation
Birth Place Herefordshire
Birth County Herefordshire


says brosley shropshire on census for his birth

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 22:57

Thanks for the wedding info. At least I know John Booth was dead by 1895.

JustDinosaurJill

JustDinosaurJill Report 6 Sep 2012 22:57

Not convinced this is the right family but posting in case.

1881 Census Household Record
Household Information
Address
Parish Shelve
District Clun, Bishops Castle
Administrative County Shropshire
Householder 1
Name John Booth
Age 44
Estimated Year of Birth 1837
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Lead Dresser
Birth Place Worthen
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 2
Name Sarah Booth
Age 34
Estimated Year of Birth 1847
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation Lead Dressers Wife
Birth Place Worthen
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 3
Name Seymour Booth
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Lead Miner
Birth Place Shelve
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 4
Name Eliza Phillipa Booth
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1872
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Shelve
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 5
Name Arthur Newton Booth
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1874
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place Shelve
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 6
Name Susanna Booth
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Shelve
Birth County Shropshire
Householder 7
Name Sarah Ellen Booth
Age 0
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Shelve
Birth County Shropshire

patchem

patchem Report 6 Sep 2012 22:57

??
Marriages Dec 1876
Booth Sarah Martha Y Worcester 6c 490
Kirby James Wright Worcester 6c 490

??
1881 England Census
Sarah M.Y. Kirby Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James W. Kirby
Gender: Female
Where born: Thurlston, Derbyshire, England
Civil parish: Islington County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Hemingford Rd Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Piece: 229 Folio: 50 Page Number: 1
James W. Kirby 45
Sarah M.Y. Kirby 40
Charles J. Kirby 17
Amy V. Kirby 15
Beatrice A.B. Kirby 2
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 229; Folio: 50; Page: 1; GSU roll: 1341050.

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 23:01

I don't think the John and Sarah Booth 1881 census above is right. Their birth places and ages are wrong.

Thanks anyway.

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 23:04

Thanks for the latest marriage info.

That's interesting because James and Sarah Kirby are in Islington for the 1881 census which is where Sarah Booth's son Henry is.

That sounds right but kills a pet theory I have. Oh well.

patchem

patchem Report 6 Sep 2012 23:06

Is this the original marriage?
Marriages Sep 1863
BOOTH John Mt. Harbro 7a 19
Nicol Sarah Martha York Mt Harbro 7a 19

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Sep 2012 23:09

son henry in 1881


1881 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address 25, Westbourne Road
Parish Islington
District Islington, Islington West
Administrative County Middlesex

Householder 1
Name John Goodchild
Age 52
Estimated Year of Birth 1829
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Chief Messenger Times Office
Birth Place Thatham
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 2
Name Charlotte Goodchild
Age 51
Estimated Year of Birth 1830
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Reading
Birth County Berkshire

Householder 3
Name Charlotte E Goodchild
Age 21
Estimated Year of Birth 1860
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Assistant In Fancy Trade
Birth Place London Islington, London
Birth County Middlesex

Householder 4
Name Annie E Goodchild
Age 19
Estimated Year of Birth 1862
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation
Birth Place London Islington, London
Birth County Middlesex

Householder 5
Name John W Goodchild
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1865
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Commercial Clerk
Birth Place London Islington, London
Birth County Middlesex

Householder 6
Name Beatrice W Goodchild
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place London Islington, London
Birth County Middlesex

Householder 7
Name Henry Booth
Age 17
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Occupation Engineers Apprentice (Eng Mach Mkr)
Birth Place St Johns
Birth County Worcestershire

Householder 8
Name Louisa G Keys
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Occupation Governess
Birth Place Stepney
Birth County Middlesex

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 6 Sep 2012 23:10

1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address 16, Vauxhall B Road
Parish St Margaret and St John The Evangelist
District St George Hanover Square, St John Westminster
Administrative County London

Householder 1
Name Henry Booth
Age 24
Estimated Year of Birth 1867
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Occupation Gas Inspector
Birth Place St Johns
Birth County Worcestershire

Householder 2
Name Marian Booth
Age 27
Estimated Year of Birth 1864
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Woolwich
Birth County Kent

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 23:12

patchem, I don't know about the original marriage. I haven't looked for that before.

However I just remembered that John Booth was alive on February 14, 1877 as he was a witness to a marriage. So, unless him and Sarah got divorced, the Kirby marriage must be wrong.

Unless he died, and Sarah too, I think they may have moved to London from Worcester sometime between 1871 - 1872. Just a theory though.

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Sep 2012 23:13

Well spotted Patchem!!

Barry

Barry Report 6 Sep 2012 23:16

PollyPoppet, Thanks.

How do you guys paste the census info here? I have to type it in manually as I can't figure out how to copy the details from ancestry.co.uk.