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Susan

Susan Report 15 Sep 2012 16:54

I just wondrered if anyb ody could help me please I am trying to find a marriage between my Aunt Marian Dewing b 1906 Lewisham London to my Uncle Harold/Harry Elliott b 1902???? am struggling a little

Kind regards

Susan

safc

safc Report 15 Sep 2012 16:57

Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%)
Dewing Miriam Elliott Deptford 1d 1722 xxxxxx
Elliott Henry G Dewing Deptford 1d 1722
Meloy Rosina Pullen Deptford 1d 1722
Pullen Sidney J Meloy Deptford 1d 1722

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 15 Sep 2012 17:11


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Miriam Jessie Dewing
Name: Miriam Jessie Dewing
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 17


OR??


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Marian Dewing
Name: Marian Dewing
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1906
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 965

Susan

Susan Report 17 Sep 2012 08:09

Hello Jacqueline and sfc thank you for the info must admit am struggling a little cos I always thought my aunts name was Marie BUT possibly it is Miriam heard my mother refer to an Aunt Miriam?? perhaps one of the same?? and my uncle was Harry?? perhaps these ARE one of the same people do u think?

Sorry to be a nuisance

Regards

Susan

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Sep 2012 08:44

Is this her with her parents in 1911..........

??
Household transcription
1911 census
Person: DEWING, Marion
Address: 34 Bronze St S E

DEWING, James Head Married M 41 1870 House Decorator Deptford London VIEW
DEWING, Priscilla Wife Married18 years F 40 1871 Deptford London VIEW
DEWING, Matilda D'ghter F 14 1897 Deptford London VIEW
DEWING, Marion D'ghter F 5 1906 Deptford London VIEW
DEWING, Priscilla D'ghter F 3 1908 Deptford London VIEW
JEFFERIES, Ellen Boarder Married18 years F 37 1874 Deptford London VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2636
Reference: RG14PN2636 RG78PN89 RD28 SD2 ED13 SN59
Registration District: Greenwich
Sub District: Deptford East
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: St Paul Deptford
Address: 34 Bronze St S E
County: London
(8 children born, 5 living, 3 had died)

Flip

Flip Report 17 Sep 2012 08:46

I think this could be Miriam in 1911:

Miriam Dewing
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Alduth Road, Thornford
Civil parish: East Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 271 Green St, Forest Gate
Marital Status: Single
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: North East Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 5
Piece: 9561
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Dewing 50
Hariette Dewing 43
Florence Dewing 20
Miriam Dewing 13

And Marion - a different family:

Marion Dewing
Age in 1911: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: DEPTFORD, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 34 Bronze Street, Deptford SE
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Piece: 2636
Household Members: Name Age
James Dewing 41
Priscilla Dewing 40
Matilda Dewing 14
Marion Dewing 5
Priscilla Dewing 3
Ellen Jefferies 37

So you need to decide which is the one you are looking for.

Sarah

Sarah Report 17 Sep 2012 10:55

I have found in my tree that many of the men called Henry used Harry interchangeably.

Sarah

Sarah Report 17 Sep 2012 10:58

Do you know what Marion/Marie/Miriam's siblings were called?

Susan

Susan Report 17 Sep 2012 21:01

thank u everyone that has searched for me Flip/Prickly Holly this is my Aunt with her parents also Matilda was my aunt Tilly Priscilla was also my Auntie.

Sarah thats what confused me cos I was lookinjg for my Uncle Harry but as u say its possible that he may have been born Henry??? also i never knew her as Marian they were Matilda Priscilla. Then Auntie Marian? had children Rose, George Elliott

Regards

Susan

Susan

Susan Report 22 Sep 2012 09:35

Hello Sarah my Aunts siblings were Matilda who was the eldest and Priscilla Charlotte x have found in 1911 Census says children born 8 5 still alive BUT theres only my 3 aunts? HOW do i discover or WHERE do i discover the other 2?? also shows 3 children died? i NEVER EVER knew anything about these other children all my mummy mentioned was my 3 aunts Matilda Marian/Miriam and Priscilla?

Any advice greatfully received

Regards

Susan

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 09:57

I hoped their other children would show up on 1901 census, but don't - they just have Matilda.

James Dewing
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Priscilla E Dewing
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Deptford, South
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 534
Folio: 41
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
James Dewing 32
Priscilla E Dewing 32
Mathilda Dewing 4

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 10:04

Looks like they had been together more than 18 years by the 1911 census - another child, Elizabeth in 1891:

James Dewing
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Priscilla Dewing
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: St Paul Deptford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls
Town: Deptford
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 495
Folio: 18
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
James Dewing 20
Priscilla Dewing 20
Elizabeth Dewing 1

Their marriage?Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dewing James Greenwich 1d 1489
Jones Priscilla Greenwich 1d 1489
Wells Edith Jane Greenwich 1d 1489
Wilson James Greenwich 1d 1489



patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2012 10:11

Slightly later marriage:
Marriages Jun 1893
xxx Dewing James Greenwich 1d 1489
xxx Jones Priscilla Greenwich 1d 1489
Wells Edith Jane Greenwich 1d 1489
Wilson James Greenwich 1d 1489

so Elizabeth not born Dewing (could not find)

patchem

patchem Report 22 Sep 2012 10:21

Does not really make sense, but cannot see a birth:
Deaths Sep 1892
Dewing Elizabeth 3 Maidstone 2a 370

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 11:56

This could be Priscella with her parents in 1881 - note she has a sister Charlotte which could be relevant as one of her children had the middle name of Charlotte:

Priscilla Jones
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Jones
Mother's Name: Esther Jones
Gender: Female
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 43 Hamilton St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 704
Folio: 108
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
George Jones 43
Esther Jones 43
Thomas Jones 20
Oliver Jones 13
Priscilla Jones 11
William Jones 6
Isabella Jones 3
Charlotte Jones (age 2 months)

And possibly James with his family in 1881:
Jas. Dewin
[Jas. Dewing]
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geo. R.N. Dewin
Mother's Name: Caroline Dewin
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, Kent, England

Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 9 Tanners Hill
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: St Paul Deptford
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 711
Folio: 87
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Geo. R.N. Dewin 40 <<bricklayers labourer
Caroline Dewin 34
Henry Dewin 13
Thos. Dewin 11
Jas. Dewin 9
John Dewin 6
Joseph Dewin 3
Arthur Dewin 1

All children born Depford, but parents pob N/K


Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 12:06

This is probably Caroline in 1911, the return is a bit of a mess:

Caroline Dewing
Age in 1911: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: England
[Deptford, St Paul's]
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 112 Tanners Hill, Deptford S E
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: LAUNDRESS
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford South
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Piece: 2663
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Dewing 66
William Dewing 24 -her son
Alice Dewing 24 - William's wife, they have no children
Mary Dewing - daughter in law (age unknown) m 7 years 3 children, 2 alive
Caroline Phyllis Dewing 6
Nellie Dewing 2
Rebecca Dewing 30 - daughter
George Dewing 9 <<<< listed as nephews, but these could be James's children as I think they are listed as Rebecca's nephews.
William Dewing 3 <<<< ditto above
Lenard Cook 24 son in law, married 4 years, 1 child
Sophia Cook 26 Lenard's wife
Lenard Cook 2

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 12:34

Hi Susan,

Thanks for the PM, yes you're right it's quite a confusing family. I think you would need to investigate individual family members to see which children born during the period relate to which parents.

There's another possible birth after the 1911 census to Dewing/Jones, in mid 1911 they started recording the mmn & I can't see another Dewing/Jones marriage in the local area.:

Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dewing Mary Jones Greenwich 1d 1836

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 12:41

Patchem,

This could be the birth of Elizabeth, would have been 1 on 1891 census and would match the death you've found (as her parents weren't married at the time of her birth):

Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jones Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 989

Flip

Flip Report 22 Sep 2012 12:46

George & Carolines marriage?

George Robert Dewing
Spouse Name: Caroline West
Record Type: Banns
Event Date: 23 Aug 1863
Parish: Rotherhithe All Saints
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Register

No other details given on register though

Susan

Susan Report 22 Sep 2012 13:21

Hi Flip and \Patchem yes youre RIGHT WHAT a confusing family just began as looking for my beautiful AUNT and WHACK!!!!!!!!! youre right will have to take a step at a time

I suppose it just takes time and not overnight

Kind regards

Thank you for ALL your help


Susan