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I am looking fo the birth of a William Whetstone I can find him on the censuses up to 1891 when he was a sapper in Royal Engineers In 1881 he is living with parents David Whetstone and Mary Ann Whetstone nee Dalton. All of the censuses say he was born in Leicestershire although dad was born inBedworth Warwickshire and mum in Grantham Lincolnshire. Also I can not find him after 1891 nor a death record.Thankyouall for taking the time to read thia and forn any help you are able to give>A postnote William was I believe born before the marriage of his parents marriage in December 1872 in LeicestershireEdit my husband knows of Whetstone "cousins" who lived in Medicine Hat Canada trying to trace them They either belonged to William or his brother David born 1874 neither of whom I can trace after 1891

1881 for ref

Name: David Whetstone
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Whetstone
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedworth

Civil parish: Leicester St Margaret
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address: 7 Taylor St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Fruiterer

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 73
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3166
Folio: 99
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
David Whetstone 35
Mary Ann Whetstone 36
William Whetstone 10
Ernest Whetstone 8
Mabel Whetstone 5
Gertrude Whetstone 1

given that this is prob 1871 i guess he was born in Leicester

Name: Maryann Dalton
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Dalton
Gender: Female
Where born: Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Leicester
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 162
Piece: 3270
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Dalton 40
Maryann Dalton 23
Aaron Dalton 18
Walter Dalton 16
Thos Spencer 34
David Wilstone 25 <<<Dad??

Thankyou Penny but I can not see a birth in Leicestershire

As the parents didn't marry until Q4 1872, he may have been registered as Dalton - have you checked that?

I have looked under Dalton but thre is not one born in 1871>Thankyou Flip

IF we can not find the birth can anyone see William later than 1891 thankyou

Given that there was no pressure on parents to register births before 1874 then it's likely that his was one that slipped through the net. My personal guess is that it would be even less likely for the illegitimate births to be registered.

Thankyou Maddie but that is the uncle of the one I am looking for .The William I am looking for is a sapper in Royal Engineers based in Kent on the 1891 census and I believe he was born in 1871 but can not find birth or any sign of him after 1891

I suppose there's a possibility .....

New Orleans, Passenger Lists, 1820-1945
Name: William Whetstone
Arrival Date: 5 May 1921
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1871
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Sagua La Grande, Cuba
Ship Name: Macoris
Race: English

He's a crew member - 2nd engineer. Stamped next to his name it says "discharged".
There are numerous other shipping records for a slightly younger William Whetstone who is a vegetable cook.

Then there's this:

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mr W Whetstone
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 62
Port of Departure: Auckland, New Zealand
Arrival Date: 22 Aug 1935
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Rotorua
Shipping Line: The New Zealand Shipping Company Ltd
Official Number: 132607

For occupation it just says retired. Last permanent residence New Zealand.

His onward destination is 24 Helmsley Road, Leicester.

EDIT: There's an outgoing record for a Wm H Whetstone to NZ in 1900, unfortunately FMP won't let me view the image at the moment. The 1935 arrival might be that man.

Thankyou Marie Cleste so perhaps he was serving abroard in 1901 and1911 I will digest this information so thankyou very much. Is there anyway of finding out who was living at Helmsley street in 1935

I'm not 100% sure that the 1935 arrival is him, unless he did have a middle name that you didn't know about.

Not an expert on Electoral Rolls so I'd suggest asking at a library near there.

here is the fmp info
passenger transcript details
Name: Wm H WHETSTONE
Date of departure: 24 October 1900
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Wellington, New Zealand
Passenger destination: Wellington, New Zealand
Date of Birth: 1872 (calculated from age)
Age: 28
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Bootmaker
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 5

The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs WHETSTONE Page 4 of 5 View transcript
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:

WAIWERA
J Stuart
Shaw Savill & Albion Co Limited
New Zealand
3681
6237
174

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I have followed the William H one and it is not him MC,

Dea Xxx

Dea, could you actually see the image though to get last address in UK?

Thankyou Mc and Dea is ther any way of looking at Williams service record in the Royal Engineers he had definitely joined by 1891 thanks for all your help

Hello - I've looked for his service records already (usually one of my first things to check!) and I'm not finding anything. The only record for that name (or variants) was a lad born 1880 in Leeds who enlisted 1897.

Well thankyou very much for trying MC . I will look at all the information I have been given what started me on this branch again was watching Alex Kingston last night and a Mary Ann Dalton was mentioned as Polka Poll Not the same person but decided to revisit this branch of the family as I had been looking at my Meredyth branch.So thankyou very much

Well, tried tracing David/Mary Ann through to 1911 census to see how many children born & still living - but no use, they have put married 40 years but just put a cross in the bit about children. These ancestors can be quite inconsiderate!