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I have posted lots of info before so before anyone starts on me - I KNOW I have posted about this person before!



I am just hoping that with fresh eyes and more info available-that someone just might enjoy a challenge and be able to help me.

What I KNOW already
Mary Ann Tapp Born Teignmouth Devon C1827
Mother was called Mary- not sure on her Father. (Mother a widow on 1841)

She had siblings called George born C1818 teignmouth and Susan Born about 1821 Teignmouth-but their ages var a lot.

In 1851-she's at teignmouth
bewtween 1851-1861 they -all 3 of them- moved to Exeter Devon
1861 Mary ANn Tapp lives at 7 Smythen Street Exeter- a dressmaker
1862- Mary Ann has a police record - Exeter
1866- Mary ANn lives at Smythen Street with her sister Susan-running a 'guest House'
1868 There is a newspaper article on her-claiming damages for a fight that happened in 1866 at the guest house-amazingly-she got 5s out of it!
Her brother George died in 1868 of TB

Her sister didn't die till 1883 but I cannot find anything of Mary Ann Tapp after Jan 8th 1868.

I fy ou are offended by my asking then please don't try and help!
Anybody who likes a hunt then I would be very very grateful as she's the only one out of that lot (Other than her children-but thats another story-I think they died-as they are only mentioned on one census)- that I cannot trace.

Grateful for any help-or even thoughts as to where else I can look.

UPDATE- Have already had one nasty comment to me for asking- Why bother reading threads if all you want to do is pick fault?-please only read on if you genuinely want to help x
thank you

I don't think she is the marriage to James Wright Reed- Exeter 1864- Its earlier than the news articles-and she's till called Tapp in 1868-and also he doesn't seem toappear in the newspaper at all-or have a police record. His background seems a bit too respectable!- I could be wrong but think him highly unlikely

She isnt with her sister in 1871 who is still at Smythen Street

1871 census transcription details for: Smythen Street Jew's Court, St George, Exeter

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 2068
Folio: 33
Page: 11
Reg. District: Exeter
Sub District: St David
Parish: St George
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Exeter
Address: Smythen Street Jew's Court, St George, Exeter
County: Devonshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
TAPP, Susan Head F 31 1840 Devon
TAPP, Bessy Daughter F 13 1858 Devon
TAPP, George Son M 12 1859 Devon
HOARE, John Lodger M 40 1831 Devon

No she doesn't seem to appear with susan again. Susan is on herown in 1881 too. I think she's either married or died-but can't find anything of either. She just vanishes!

John Hoare was a nasty one-the lodger,he beat up Bessy,Mary Ann's niece a few years later-she ended up in hospital :(

Could this be George's Christening?


parents:
John Tapp,? Mary

name:
George Tapp

gender:
Male

baptism/christening date:
18 Aug 1816

baptism/christening place:
WEST TEIGNMOUTH,DEVON,ENGLAND

father's name:
John Tapp

mother's name:
Mary

indexing project (batch) number:
C05257-1
system origin:
England-ODM
source film number:
917538

:-)

Mary Ann

parents:
John Tapp,? Mary

name:
Mary Ann Tapp

gender:
Female

baptism/christening date:
11 Feb 1821

baptism/christening place:
WEST TEIGNMOUTH,DEVON,ENGLAND

father's name:
John Tapp

mother's name:
Mary

indexing project (batch) number:
C05257-1
system origin:
England-ODM
source film number:
917538

:-)

It could-but I just don't know. I got a whole load of 'Tapp' stuff from teignmouth museum-but there were a couple of Mary Tapps with husbands-and they both had sons called george :-S -so haven't ruled it out but just don't know.

Ithought of ordering the Mary Ann Tapp 1864 marriage-but as I don't know her Father's name for certain-I couldn't prove it was her I don't think either. just stuck.

oh -I see you found a MaryAnn Tapp baptism too-with same parents- wel that wasn't on what i had before! I had only found the two Georges. She's not on my museum print out either.! thank you

maybe I'l orde that marriage cert then- a stab in the dark- but worth a go I think-At least now I know the Father was John Tapp-thanks very much

This could be Susan mistranscribed .

1841 England Census
about Susan Raph Name: Susan Raph
[Susan Tapp]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: West Teignmouth
Hundred: Exminster
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newton Abbot
Sub-registration district: Teignmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 220
Book: 13
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Duck 45
Charlotte McKee 20
Susan Raph 15

Please don't waste time on Susan or george-I have everything of them- Its just Mary Ann after 1868 I am missing -thanks x

But yes that is her x

off to work now -will be abck later -thanks for everybody's help ;-)

Re the baptisms above to John and Mary this looks like the family in 1841. But there isn't a baptism for a Susan to this couple that I can find.

GILPIN, John M 45 1796 Devon VIEW
GILPIN, Sophia F 45 1796 Foreign VIEW
GILPIN, John M 20 1821 Devon VIEW
GILPIN, Sophia F 17 1824 Devon VIEW
GILPIN, Emma F 7 1834 Devon VIEW
GILPIN, Samuel M 1 1840 Devon VIEW
TAPP, Mary F 55 1786 Devon VIEW
TAPP, George M 25 1816 Devon VIEW
TAPP, Mary F 20 1821 Devon VIEW
TAPP, Ellizabeth F 15 1826 Devon VIEW

Piece: 220 Book/Folio: 14 Page: 22 Registration District: Newton Abbot Civil Parish: West Teignmouth Municipal Borough: Address: Chapel Street, West Teignmouth County: Devonshire

thats def them in 1841- and susan as 'Susan' very kindly posted is out at work. And the father john has died-So i think those baptisms are correct-Its just missing the susan one to concrete it . I will order te Susan Tapp marriage I think though-and hopefully by her age,fathers name and the witnessess hopefully be able to clarify if yes or no!

Not sure who the Elizabeth Tapp age 15 is either- unless another sister without a baptism! She certainly doesn't appear with them in Exeter-although Susan calls her daughter bessy(Short for E) and- Bessy had a daughter she called Elizabeth-so although a popular name-could be another point in the story.

maybe I'll check the deaths again!

This is why I'm confused!- there are two families with same children names


Mary Ann Tapp
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 11 Feb 1821 WEST TEIGNMOUTH,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Tapp,? Mary
George Tapp
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 18 Aug 1816 WEST TEIGNMOUTH,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Tapp,? Mary
Henry Osmond Tapp
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 15 Nov 1818 WEST TEIGNMOUTH,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Tapp,? Mary
Elizabeth Rugg Tapp
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 04 Jun 1813 WEST TEIGNMOUTH,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents: John Tapp,? Mary
Elizabeth Tapp
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 14 Oct 1824 WEST TEIGNMOUTH,?DEVON,?ENGLAND
parents JohnTapp.Mary

Ann Cardiff-I am not asking anyone to help me that doesn't want to-and am not asking anyone to repeat things eihter. I have clearly stated what I would liek help with-and what I already have. If you are not inetrested then get off my thread!

I findif you have one very very long one then it gets too confusing anyway. AND its all about differnt people-not the same one. Please stop being so nasty.

ALso since GR have changed the layout I couldn't find my threads at all.
since I had them pointed out to me-I found them-but there is still info i require-that is why I am asking. Please leave me alone and go and pick on someone else

Just had to smile when I read that she had got 5 s out of it. It didn't connect straightaway that she had received five bob-jl

I know Janet-laughable isn't it-and the cheek of taking it to court two years later! don't think that would happen now LOL.