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Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Sheila	Report	18 Oct 2012 17:24
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Stuart Many thanks for all your work finding the information for me it is a great help. I would not have known where to look . Is there any way of checking to find out if the Thomas Hartley and wife Elizabeth (andrews find) and Joseph Hartley and wife Elizabeth (your find) are related. I know there are many families with the same surname that are not related. Thank you Sheila
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	17 Oct 2012 23:26
	Great research Stuart!!
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 22:29
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	So this is Joseph in 1871 as a Blacksmith! b Whitwell 1871 census transcription details for: High Street, Whitwell National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3463 Folio: 12 Page: 15 Reg. District: Worksop Sub District: Carburton Parish: Whitwell Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: High Street, Whitwell County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WOOD, John Head M 42 1829 Derbyshire WOOD, Mary Wife F 43 1828 Nottinghamshire WOOD, Caroline Daughter F 11 1860 Derbyshire WOOD, Harriet Daughter F 8 1863 Derbyshire WOOD, Mary Daughter F 5 1866 Derbyshire HALL, George Lodger M 24 1847 Yorkshire WHITAKER, Charles Lodger M 23 1848 Yorkshire BEAUMONT, James W Lodger M 18 1853 Cambridgeshire HARTLEY, Joseph Lodger M 18 1853 Derbyshire
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 22:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Writing atrocious on original - reckon surname could read Heartley. Brother Rowland transcribed as Holland! 1861 census transcription details for: Belph Moor, Whitwell National Archive Reference: RG number: RG09 Piece: 2422 Folio: 4 Page: 1 Reg. District: Worksop Sub District: 4 Carburton Parish: Whitwell Enum. District: 1 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Belph Moor, Whitwell County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HEMSLEY, George Head Married M 57 1804 Blacksmith..., Derbyshire HEMSLEY, ... Wife Married F 40 1821 Ashfield, Nottinghamshire HEMSLEY, James Son Unmarried M 25 1836 Blacksmith Whitwell, Derbyshire HEMSLEY, Jane Daughter F 10 1851 Scholar Whitwell, Derbyshire HEMSLEY, Joseph Son M 8 1853 Scholar Whitwell, Derbyshire HEMSLEY, Holland Son M 5 1856 Scholar Whitwell, Derbyshire HEMSLEY, Albert Son M 3 1858 Scholar Whitwell, Derbyshire
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 22:09
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	?? Marriage of Ernest's parents Worksop RD covers Whitwell Civil Registration event: Marriage Name: HARTLEY, Joseph Registration district: Worksop County: Nottinghamshire Year of registration: 1875 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 7B Page no: 73 MarriageFinder: Joseph Hartley married one of the following people: TAYLOR, Elizabeth Ruth HEARTLEY, Joseph
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 21:38
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Records on Ancestry Attested 29 Dec 1898 to Royal Marines for 12 years. joined royal Marine Depot Deal, Kent 31 December via Medical in London aged 18 years 5 months 29 days!! (DOB 1 July 1880) He has gained about 3 years. Born St Anns parish, Nottingham. Printer by trade 5ft 7and one tenth inches tall, chest 361/2 inches. Hair Lt Brown, eyes blue CofE Transferred to 1st Battalion Suffolk Regiment August 1899 re-engaged for further 4 years Dec 1910 Must have re engaged again as noted Discharged at termination of final period of engagement 13.1.1916 Served with Expeditionary Force 1.4.15 to 23.12.15 Admitted 3 times following gun shot wounds, eventually sent home to England 22.12.1915 to be discharged service Up and down the ranks as service conditions required, appointed Acting Company Sergeant Major 2.10.1915 and reverted to permanent rank of Corporal (paid Lance Sergeant) 16.12.1915 British War Medal, Victory Medal and 1914-15 Star Not all records available - served Boer War and got South African Medal 1900 and 3 clasps Kings South African Medal and 2 clasps 1901- Cape Colony Orange Free State and Transvaal
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:50
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	My post made at 1925 gives his Army pension records and both Prickly Holly and George have commented on this. Army Records show Hetley (know what it says now you tell me) born 29.4.1911 at Bulwell, Notts and Irene Florence 4.7.1913
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:42
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	1881 census transcription details for: Police Lodge, Corporation Road, Nottingham St Mary National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 3354 Folio: 4 Page: 1 Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: St Ann Parish: Nottingham St Mary Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Police Lodge, Corporation Road, Nottingham St Mary County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HARTLEY, John Head Married M 28 1853 Police Constable Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Elizth Ruth Wife Married F 26 1855 Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Ethel Amy Daughter Single F 4 1877 Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Rowland Augustus Son Single M 3 1878 Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Lawrence Scott Son Single M 1 1880 Clay Cross, Derbyshire Note - father is John on the transcript but original is Josh (Joseph) Next door to him is Rowland Hartley age 25 Police Constable b Whitwell, Derbys with his wife and child ??possible brother who Joseph names one of his children after
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Sheila	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:41
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Thank you Stuart. No-one had said that he was in the Army but if his pension records show he was married to Florence James then that must be the correct family. They had a son Hetley b 1911. Sheila
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Sheila	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:31
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	George Now you have got me confused by finding another Ernest same birth year with parents Joseph and Elizabeth at Whitwell . How can I find for sure which is the right family.? I thought Andrew had the right family when I saw the info he had found now I don`t know. Sheila :-S
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:27
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Sheila - Don't think Andrew's one is correct. If you say he was married to Florence James then I think we have proved Ernest was the one with the policeman father in Nottingham. His Army pension records show his marriage to Florence James.
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Sheila	Report	17 Oct 2012 20:11
Member Since: July 2010 Posts: 189 Send Message	Andrew It looks as if you have the right person as were told his other name was Joseph and looking at the rest of the family names it maybe that the John Hartley age 70 is the grandfather which would be great. Thanks for all the information. What would do without you all. Sheila
Member Since: June 2005 Posts: 3,379 Send Message	George_of_Westbury	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:38
	Yes good find Stuart, i was looking to see if he was in the Forces, but only looked on FMP but nio result, never thought he could be on the Pension records. George
	Researching: My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:38
	England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Ernest Joseph Hartley Name: Ernest Joseph Hartley Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1883 Registration district: Nottingham Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 314
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:35
	?? 1901 England Census about Florence A James Name: Florence A James Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward S James Mother's Name: Annie M James Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 88 Piece: 3176 Folio: 121 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Edward S James 45 Annie M James 47 Florence A James 16 Arthur W James 7 >>>>>Witness at the marriage?
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:32
	What a good find Stuart! It seems he lied about his age?
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:25
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	??? British Army WW! Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: Ernest Joseph Hartley Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Age at enlistment: 18 Birth Parish: St Anns Birth County: Nottinghamshire Document Year: 1898 Regiment Name: Royal Marine Light Infantry Number of images: 13 Yes this one - particulars as to marriage - Florence Annie James 5 Nov 1910. Witnesses Joseph Hartley and Arthur W JAmes Attested 1898 - NOK Father Joseph of Pym Street changed to wife 31 Bridlington Street, Nottingham
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 31,288 Send Message	PricklyHolly	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:00
	Just in case........... Household transcription 1911 census Person: HARTLEY, Joseph Address: 74 Marlborough Road Beeston Nottinghamshire HARTLEY, Joseph Head Married37 years M 58 1853 Pensioner Grom Police Whitwell Derbyshire VIEW HARTLEY, Elizabeth Ruth Mother Married F 57 1854 Whitwell Derbyshire VIEW HARTLEY, Percy Claud Son Single M 22 1889 Electrition Nottingham VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 20426 Reference: RG14PN20426 RG78PN1223 RD429 SD3 ED1 SN29 Registration District: Basford Sub District: Beeston Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Beeston Address: 74 Marlborough Road Beeston Nottinghamshire County: Nottinghamshire (8 children born. 6 living, 2 had died)
	Researching: "If I don't see you through the week.........I will see you through the window". :o))
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	greyghost	Report	17 Oct 2012 19:00
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,667 Send Message	Rest of family in 1901 but not Ernest. I think this is the more likely one as he says born Nottingham 1901 census transcription details for: 32, Pym Street, Nottingham National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 3176 Folio: 106 Page: 27 Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham North East Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 34 Ecclesiastical District: St Ann City/Municipal Borough: Address: 32, Pym Street, Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HARTLEY, Joseph Head Married M 47 1854 Police Sergeant Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Elizabeth R Wife Married F 45 1856 Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Ethel A Daughter Single F 24 1877 Dressmaker Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Laurence S Son Single M 21 1880 Picture Frame Maker Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Annie E Daughter Single F 19 1882 Lace Mender Nottingham HARTLEY, Ellen G Daughter F 15 1886 Assistant In Foot Shop Nottingham HARTLEY, Claude P Son M 11 1890 School Nottingham
Member Since: June 2005 Posts: 3,379 Send Message	George_of_Westbury	Report	17 Oct 2012 18:58
	PH I can find the family in 1901, but Earnest is not with them, so i found them by looking for the other son Claude. For ref. 1901 census transcription details for: 32, Pym Street, Nottingham Print Close National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 3176 Folio: 106 Page: 27 Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: Nottingham North East Parish: Nottingham Enum. District: 34 Ecclesiastical District: St Ann City/Municipal Borough: Address: 32, Pym Street, Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born HARTLEY, Joseph Head Married M 47 1854 Police Sergeant Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Elizabeth R Wife Married F 45 1856 Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Ethel A Daughter Single F 24 1877 Dressmaker Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Laurence S Son Single M 21 1880 Picture Frame Maker Whitwell, Derbyshire HARTLEY, Annie E Daughter Single F 19 1882 Lace Mender Nottingham HARTLEY, Ellen G Daughter F 15 1886 Assistant In Foot Shop Nottingham HARTLEY, Claude P Son M 11 1890 School Nottingham -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George
	Researching: My avatar is that of my Dad and shipmates, taken onboard HMS Blanche in 1938, place unknown From left to right, my Dad,Sidney Mellor and Sidney Bateman.

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