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my mum was born, out of wed lock, rose emily mable millard in 1901 in bath. her mum was emily j lampard. her aunt was mable lampart. emily lampard moved to pembrokshire and married edward phillips. my mum married my dad charles durant welch. does any1 have any info on the lampard plz? :-D

Hi, Terry.

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For reference -

Births Dec 1901 (>99%)
MILLARD Rose Emily M Bath 5c 506

Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
Lampard Emily J Phillips Pembroke 11a 2046
Phillips Edward H Lampard Pembroke 11a 2046

Do you have the marriage certificate for Emily and Edward to see who her father is?

Have you found them in any census?

How old was Emily when Rose was born?

When did Emily die?

As the child was registered as Millard, one has to assume that the father was named, and was present at the registration

Are you sure she didn't marry?

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Lampard Emma Bath 5c 1210
Millard Frederick John Bath 5c 1210

Nice one, Margee...........

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1911 census

Person: MILLARD, Frederick John Address: 14 Grove St Bath

MILLARD, Caroline Head Widow F 66 1845 Laundress St James Bath VIEW
MILLARD, Frederick John Son Married M 34 1877 Costumier Porter Bathwick Bath VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 14682 Reference: RG14PN14682 RG78PN891 RD316 SD2 ED1 SN59 Registration District: Bath

Perhaps the husband was cuckolded, and the child's birth registered using false info

1901.

Note wife is EMILY (as per op), not Emma as per marriage index, though that marriage ref has to be the right one :

Name: Frederick Mellard
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Mellard
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Walcot
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26A
Piece: 2341
Folio: 56
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Mellard 24 1877 Bath, Somerset, England Draper porter
Emily Mellard 21 c1880 Devizes, Wiltshire, England

Address 2 Dover St

1901 England Census about Caroline Millard
Name: Caroline Millard
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: Bathwick St Mary the Virgin
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Bathwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 2336
Folio: 8
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Millard 55
Alice A Millard 26

1901 England Census

Name: Frederick Mellard
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Mellard
Gender: Male
Where born: Bath, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England


Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Walcot
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26A
Piece: 2341
Folio: 56
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Mellard 24
Emily Mellard 21 born Devizes. Wiltshire

You really need to get the 1916 marriage cert.............so that you know how old she said she was.....and her father's details

On that 1901 census for Fred & Emily the original is Millard not Mellard. Emily was born Devizes, Wiltshire.

Thanx every1 for your help. The full info i have so far is that my mum was def born in B& named Rose Mmily Mable Millard. She never met her dad as he would not marry her mum. Her mum was Emily J Lampard who came to Pembrokshire & married Thomas Edward Pillips (we called him Ted) in 1916 and he died in 1957. My mum would have been about 15years old when they married and she too became phillips. She then married my dad Charles Durant Welch here in Llanelli in 1922. He had been adopted by his uncle charles Durant in Llanelli but he was born in Stockport to Alferd Welch & Margaret Ann Durant who died in childbirth. We believe from photos & they way my mum had been dressed as a child that they were not too bad off. We think that Emily had possibly been in service & who ever made her pregnant payed towards my mum Rose but would not marry her. Where Emily comes from or where she was born i have no clue. I have tried the census ect but I am still confussed here atmo so all your help is very much appreciated. It's silly buit these things were just not talked about in my childhood and now both my parent & brothers are dead I am now at a loss to find my past. I have a post card from a Mable addressed to her sister Emily & Ted & asks how my mum Rose is & the postcard is a photo of her son but she does not say his name so we mite have some descendants left that we do not know. I beleive that my grampa Alfred Welch might have got remarried so we might have some family there too. God this is confussing but interesting. thanx.

This one has a sister Mabel:

1891 England Census
about Emma Lanpard Name: Emma Lanpard
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Lanpard
Mother's name: Mary Lanpard
Gender: Female
Where born: Devizes, Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: St James
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Registration district: Bath
Sub-registration district: Walcot
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1934
Folio: 83
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Lanpard 44
Mary Lanpard 45
Emma Lanpard 11
William Lanpard 8
Henry Lanpard 5
Mabel Lanpard 3
Laina Lanpard 28
Alfred Lanpard 7

Same family in 1901, Emily is missing:

1901 England Census
about Mabel Lampard Name: Mabel Lampard
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George Lampard
Mother's name: Mary Lampard
Gender: Female
Where born: Wootton Bassett, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Upton Scudamore
Ecclesiastical parish: Upton Scudamore
Town: Upton Scudamore
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Warminster
Sub-registration district: Warminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Piece: 1941
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Lampard 54
Mary Lampard 55
William Lampard 18
Henry Lampard 16
Mabel Lampard 13

Note in Margee's 1891 census EMMA, as per the 1901 Marriage entry, is born same yr and Location as EMILY as per 1901 census Reggie & I both posted, so she seems to have either used Emma and Emily interchangeably, or she got mistranscribed from time to time.

By 1911 Mabel appears to have had her own daughter and they are listed as boarders with this famliy

1911

Name: Mabel May Lampard
Age in 1911: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Britford, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Donhead St Andrew
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street Address: Overway, Donhead St Andrew, Wilts
Registration district: Tisbury
Registration District Number: 255
Sub-registration district: Donhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 12139
Household Members:
Name Age
Henery Farr 38
Anna Mary Farr 55
Albert Edden Snoad 14
Mabel May Lampard 23
Kathleen May Lampard 3 b Basingstoke Hampshire

Thanx again every1 as I am usless at this. It is possible she could have been emma by mistake. I have only half her marriage cert so dont know much details. she was def emily jayne on that. I know her sister Mable had a boy at some point as we have a photo of him on a lovely rocking horse, he was about 5 then. This would have been taken before my mum got married & still lived at home but after she was 15 as the name ted is on the postcard photo and he married Emily when my mum was 15. So i think mable maybe younger also they did not move to wales with Emily. :-S