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Thank you patchem
It was Arthur James I was Looking at.
I am never sure about using free bmd as I have had things wrong when I have been on there.
Everything you have all found for me has been a great help.
Thank you very much.
Sheila

Do you mean who Arthur James married, as we have not found an Arthur Treasure?

Added:
This is from free bmd, which you could have looked up:
Marriages Mar 1916
Bailey Cicely Janes Shardlow 7b 917
James Arthur W Bailey Shardlow 7b 917

You can search for possible children using the surnames James and Bailey on free bmd:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
(looks like another Arthur and a Dorothy)

Vicci posted this for Frank in 1911:
'TREASURE, Frank Assistant Single M 25 1886 Working On Farm Somerset Wanstron'
so born in Wanstron, Somerset. (Probably Wanstrow)
His Father's name will be on Frank's marriage certificate.

Births..
Not Frank C or Frank P C
Births Mar 1881
TREASURE Francis Frome 5c 496
Births Sep 1881
TREASURE Frank Lewis Frome 5c 455
Births Jun 1887
Treasure Francis William Frome 5c 481

Thank you for finding out who Arthur was ( think I got Sons and Uncles muddled)

Please can you find if Arthur was married to Sissi ( could be short for another name) if yes did they have any children?

Who was Frank Treasure`s parents, were they from Somerset ?

Thank you
Sheila

The marriage in 1939, Melton Mowbray, is to an Amy B (born in 1916 in Barrow, probably).

John Osborne Treasure
Birth Date: 19 Dec 1913
Date of Registration: Dec 1988
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7
Page: 1569

john Treasure also at Wadd House

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1025&iid=BT_900777_BOX103_1940_APR_001-00959&fn=John&ln=Treasure&st=r&ssrc=&pid=109394062

found Alice Treasure in the phone directories living at
Wadd Farm house Old Dalby

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1025&iid=BT_901235_BOX175_1972_MAR_001-00471&fn=A&ln=Treasure&st=r&ssrc=&pid=196199252

Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)
BROWN Ann Mary Nottingham 7b 320

James Edward Smith Nottingham 7b 320

note: brother of Florence Annie is Arthur.

1911

Name: Arthur William James
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Nottingham, England
Civil parish: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: 70 Moffat St Nottingham
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Electrician
Registration district: Nottingham
Registration District Number: 430
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 20573
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Smith James 55
Annie Mary James 57
Arthur William James 17

Parents of Hetley
Ernest Hartley b 1884 Nottingham

>>>Florence Annie James b 1885 Nottingham
father Edward Smith James - appears to be brother of (Mary) Elizabeth James who married John Musson

1901
Name: Florence A James
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward S James
Mother's name: Annie M James
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Nottingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Nottingham
Sub-registration district: Nottingham North East
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Piece: 3176
Folio: 121
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward S James 45
Annie M James 47
Florence A James 16
Arthur W James 7

HI
i think the connection is through the JAMES family

Marriages Sep 1879 (>99%)

JAMES MARY ELIZABETH Loughbro 7a 186
Musson John Loughbro 7a 186

ie parents of the Dorothy who married Frank

Name: Elizth James
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John James
Mother's name: Dorothy James
Gender: Female
Where born: Wymeswold, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester
Town: Wymeswold
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Leake
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 65
Piece: 3260
Folio: 49
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
John James 53
Dorothy James 50
Thomas James 23
John James 21
Edward James 15
Elizth James 14
Dinah James 12

Marriages 1890-2005
Treasure-John O
Married 1939 Melton Mowbray
Just found does it help?

Sheila

Hello patchem
I have just been looking on rootsweb and there is a Frank C Treasure b 1888 d1966 and he was married in 1913 to Dorothy T Musson b 1881 in Six Hills Leicestershire,
They had a son John Osborne b 1914.
This is what Vicci had found and I am wondering if my friend has it wrong and John is the son and not the brother as he thought.
Sorry I do not have any more about Arthur,I will be speaking to my friend later and will ask if he can remember any more.
Thank you
Sheila

Are you saying that both Frank and John/Jack married women called Alice?
Have you any more information on the possible son Arthur - such as age?
If they were in their 40's in the 1950's then they were born 1900 to 1920.
The Frank that you have suggested as a brother was born 1886 - does this fit together?
Thank-you

Sorry for delay in getting back to you all.
I have spoken to my friend who I am helping (he does not have computer)
He is the stepson of Hetley Hartley.
Son of Hetley is James b 1951

Parents of Hetley
Ernest Hartley b 1884 Nottingham
Florence Annie James b 1885 Nottingham

Grandparents of Hetley
Joseph Hartley b 1853 Whitwell Derbyshire
Elizabeth Ruth b 1856 Whitwell

My friend thinks that Old Dalby is correct and Frank is the brother of Uncle Jack/John.

Could Sunnyside ,Old Dalby be the name of the farm.

Hope this is of help to you all.
One of my threads is for Ernest Hartley it has more info if you can get on it.

Thank you
Sheila

Births Mar 1914 (>99%)
TREASURE John O MUSSON Melton M. 7a 571

first marriage
Dorothy T Musson Treasure Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 Melton Mowbray Leicestershire

View Record Frank C Treasure Musson Jan-Feb-Mar 1913 Melton Mowbray Leicestershire

MUSSON, John Head Married M 59 1852 Grazier Lincoln Claypole VIEW
MUSSON, Elizabeth Wife Married32 years F 54 1857 Dairy Work Leicester Wymeswold VIEW
MUSSON, Dorothy Daughter Single F 29 1882 Dairy Work Notts Six Hills VIEW
MUSSON, Ethel Niece Single F 18 1893 Dairy Work Lincoln Claypole VIEW
TREASURE, Frank Assistant Single M 25 1886 Working On Farm Somerset Wanstron VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 19331

Reference: RG14PN19331 RG78PN1153 RD408 SD1 ED3 SN39

Registration District: Melton Mowbray

Sub District: Melton Mowbray

Enumeration District: 3

Parish: Old Dalby

Address: Sunnyside Old Dalby M Mowbray

County: Leicestershire

full name
Frank Percy Crawford Treasure

born 1888

I wonder if this is him
Marriages Jun 1943 (>99%)

Martin Alice Treasure Nuneaton 6d 1566

Treasure Frank P C Martin Nuneaton 6d 1566

Frank died 1966 probate to Alice

says of Old Dalby, which is 4 miles from Long Clawson.

Births Jun 1911 Hartley Hetley J Nottingham 7b 503


Who were the parents of Hetley Hartley please?