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On the 1901 Census i have Fred Green aged 16, parents George Arthur Green and Louisa Green ( nee Dunn ) living in Hanwell .I cannot seem to find a birth cert for him. Could he be Fred or Alfred ? Does he appear in anyones tree ? Can anybody assist please. Michael

Possible?

Brentford covers Hanwell

Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Green Alfred Brentford 3a 88

BUT the census says he was born Pancras and there are several possibles for that also.

Is this Fred's brother ?


name: Clifford Green
titles and terms (original):
death date: 27 May 1941
death place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
gender: Male
marital status:
race or color:
age: 61
estimated birth year: 1880
birth date: 24 Sep 1879
birthplace: London, England

father: George Green
father's birth place: London, England

mother: Lousia Dunn
mother's birth place: London, England

occupation: plaster
residence: Chicago, Cook, Illinois

spouse: Margaret Green
spouse's birthplace:

burial date: 02 Jun 1941
burial place: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
cemetery: Local
informant:

Is this Fred ? Or have we got 2 Fred Greens with same parents names ?



name: Fred Green
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Jan 1888
baptism/christening place: Colbury, Hampshire, England
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father's name: George Green
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mother's name: Louisa

Yes , this is his elder brother.

He is Fred on 1891 census ?

Can only find one London Baptism to match those parents and is for George Herbert

Name: George Herbert Green
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 May 1882
Father's Name: George Arthur Green
Mother's name: Louisa Green
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers



George Herbert born 21 Jan 1882. 47 Upper Marylebone St. (?)
George is a surgical instrument maker

Oh dear, too many possibilities.


name: Alfred Green
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Sep 1885
baptism/christening place: Colbury, Hampshire, England
father's name: George Green
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mother's name: Louisa

The Fred i am looking for was born in Pancras

Could be any one of these

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Green Alfred Pancras 1b 29
Green Alfred Pancras 1b 130

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Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
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Green Alfred George Pancras 1b 143

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Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Green Alfred George Pancras 1b 139

He could have been called anything

George Herbert appears on 1901 census as Herbert

Births Dec 1884 ?

Green Frederick Ernest Pancras 1b 66

Roy

Edit, NOT this one he died

Deaths Mar 1886

Green Frederick Ernest 1 Pancras 1b 49

This is Augustus marriage, in case you want it.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Augustus Green Name: Augustus Green
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Age: 22
Spouse Name: Annie Berryman
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jun 1908
Parish: Hanwell St Mary
Borough: Ealing
Father Name: George Green ,,,surgical instrument maker ...as per census
Spouse Father Name: William Berryman
Register Type: Parish Register

Struggling to find a marriage for George and Louisa.

Wondering whether Fred was registered as Dunn ?

Was he definitely George Arthur ?

Only one I can see is ...



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Marriages Mar 1885 -

Dunn Louisa - Bethnal Green 1c 475
Green Henry George - Bethnal Green 1c 475
Newman Charles Graham Bethnal Green 1c 475
Pizey Louisa Bethnal Green 1c 475

That 1885 marriage

Green married Pizey


Would help if I could find the family in 1891

Ok Thanks GB

Still can't find a wedding then

Clifford Green married Sarah Louisa Stocker in 1903

Unfortunately no Green family were witnesses

So do we presume the maiden name of wife has come from a birth cert

1871 just for info

Name: George Green
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa Green
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark
Civil parish: Blackley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Blackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 4066
Folio: 42
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
George Green 25
Louisa Green 19
Emily Green 3 Months

Class: RG10; Piece: 4066; Folio: 42; Page: 6; GSU roll: 846348