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Could some very kind person be able look up a John Sullivan who was born Skibbereen County Cork Ireland in 1873 - His Father John Sullivan - Labourer, His Mother Johanna Sullivan nee Collins. on a shipping list sometime
before his marriage in Dunedin N.Z. 1901.
Many Thanks
Carol

Nothing on FMP for migration to NZ up to 1900. BUT.....their records don't start until 1890

Aren't there any immigration records for NZ?

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http://hr-search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1609792

(have come across the above)

Chris :)

Hi Reggie, Not all passengers lists were kept . The assisted ones or passengers in steerage you would be very lucky. I came across an ancestor of mine just by chance because she was on the debtors list. Was a stroke of luck. Thanks for looking for me. That looks promising Chris Thankyou.
regards Carol

You could try this:

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/

You may find something there - good luck.

Sappho

Another site to try is this:

http://www.aucklandcitylibraries.com/

Online history and genealogy resources, including passenger arrivals Auckland 1838-1886, 1909-1921.

Sappho

Thankyou Sappho will try these links.

Carol

Hi Ceedee,

The marriage in 1901 - do you have some details for me to have another look for you?

Thanks

Sappho

Have you checked for any of his siblings in NZ?
It is possible that the whole family went to NZ.

Here are the births, but I wonder if there are 2 separate families or if there is an error on dates?
Look at the first two children named Julia and Mary.
There is only 6 months between them????

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Julia Sullivan
Name: Julia Sullivan
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1865
Birth Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johana Collins
FHL Film Number: 101104

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Mary Sullivan
Name: Mary Sullivan
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1865
Birth Place: Drimoleague, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins
FHL Film Number: 101114


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about James Sullivan
Name: James Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1866
Birth Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johannah Collins
FHL Film Number: 101129


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Daniel Sullivan ***** see below
Name: Daniel Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1868
Birth Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins
FHL Film Number: 101164

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about John Sullivan
Name: John Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1869
Birth Place: Drimoleague, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Drimoleague, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins
FHL Film Number: 101189

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Honora Sullivan
Name: Honora Sullivan
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1870
Birth Place: Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins Sullivan
FHL Film Number: 101214

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Patrick Sullivan **** see below
Name: Patrick Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 May 1872
Birth Place: Drimoleague, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Drimoleague, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins
FHL Film Number: 255855

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about John Sullivan
Name: John Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 May 1873
Birth Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Baptism Place: Skibbereen, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johanna Collins
FHL Film Number: 255882

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Johannah Sullivan
Name: Johannah Sullivan
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 11 Jun 1876
Birth Place: Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Father's Birth Place: Bannahaw
Mother's name: Johanna Sullivan Collins
FHL Film Number: 255956

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Denis Sullivan
Name: Denis Sullivan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 Sep 1878
Birth Place: Cork, Ireland
Father's Name: John Sullivan
Mother's name: Johannah Sullivan Collins
FHL Film Number: 256013

Possible?
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NOT18901023.2.11&srpos=2&e=-------10--1----2johanna+sullivan--

*** From the North Otago Times dated 23 Oct 1890
Death announcement of Daniel Sullivan aged 21 who died on the 20th at Eden Street, Oamaru
Funeral cortege to leave from PARENTS home.

Then this one:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19020113.2.48&srpos=3&e=-------10--1----2johanna+sullivan
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Death announcement of Patrick Sullivan age 32yrs who died on 13 Jan 1902.
Son of John and Johanna of Humber Street, Oamaru

Anne thankyou thankyou I will look into all this wonderful information.
regards.
Carol

Hi Sappo here are some more details. Thankyou.
John Sullivan was born Skibbereen County Cork Ireland in 1873 - His Father John Sullivan - Labourer, His Mother Johanna Sullivan nee Collins. James b 1st June 1866, Julia b 10th March 1865, Daniel born 1868 and Patrick born 1870. John married Kate Matilda (Matty) Comyn Born in Dunedin Otago N.Z. in 1865. Her Father was George William Comyn Police Constable - Her Mother Catherine Comyn nee Kileen.

John Sullivan (Known as Jack) a farmer and Kate Matilda (Known as Matty) married at Saint Josephs Cathedral Dunedin Nrw Zealand 8th April 1901 .

In 1902 They had a daughter - Daisy Clarenda Mary (Known as Mary) who was born in Dunedin. Mary Married Edward Joseph Fraser in 1926 he died Friday the 24th April 1936 aged 48 years. His address was Temuka New Zealand. Daisy died in the Margaret Wilson Home Timaru 1st May 1989 aged 87 and is buried in the Timaru cemetery with Clarenda Comyn her Mothers sister who never married. Clarenda died 15th March 1954 aged 79.

Kate Matilda died in 1943 aged 76.She is buried in the Bromley cemetery She had lived in 7 Trafalga St Christchurch. She had two younger sisters Mary Georgina born 1871 and Clarinda born 1873 .

John died Wednesday the 27th July 1966. And is buried in the Bromley cemetery Christchurch New Zealand.

Hello All,

I found a passengerr list, the Otago arriving in Dunedin on the 6th June 1874. John 37, Johanna 30, Julia 9, James 6, Daniel 5, Patrick 4, Mary 2 and John 9 months. The dates of the deaths of Daniel and Patrick fit this family.

Any more on this family is most welcome.
with thanks,
Carol

Hi Ceedee,
Your passenger list appears to confirm that were will have been 2 separate sets of children born in Cork, both to parents called John Sullivan and Johanna Collins.

If your couple arrived in NZ in1874, they could not still be having children in Ireland in 1876 and 1878

Between 1902 and 1926 there are deaths for 3 women called Johanna Collins.
Sep 1926 age 72*** wife of Michael Sullivan. Not the correct death

6 Dec 1926 age 85. no death announcement found

23 Dec 1914 age 76 No death announcement found

Hi Ceedee,

The family moved around a bit. I live near Bromley cemetery. I will take the camera and have a look for them if you would like a photo that is.

Oamaru is a beautiful town and famous for its stone. Eden street rises sharply and if I knew the number I would take a photo of the house for you. Always nice to have a photo record!

Timaru and Temuka are within easy distance of each other. We need to find the family as they must be in the south island.

Will keep looking.

What luck on the information from Anne - Well done all round.

Sappho

Sappho,
I have been looking at electoral rolls for the Sullivan family and due to my lack of NZ geography, I am finding it difficult to positively identify them, so I have kept my searches to Oamaru

I know that women are on Ers from about 1893 or 1896 onwards
EG 1900
I have found tthe Sullivans at Humber Street but only the males John ( labourer) and John Jnr ( farmer) are isted.
The women Johanna ( married) and unmarried Mary seem to be at Thames Street... unless I am mis identifying them?
They all appear on the same electoral roll page.

Anne

As the family seem to have arrived in NZ in 1874, Johanna ( Collins) would probably still be of childbearing age and I wondered if they had any NZ born children.

On the search, it became apparent that there had to be yet another couple called John And Johanna Sullivan as they were having children in a similar time period.

I have identified them as John Sullivan and Johanna Shanahan who married in Dec 1879.
In order to check for NZ births for your couple, I have looked at children born to a John and Johanna prior to Dec 1879.

I found three. ( no guarantee that these are your John's siblings but have parents with the correct names)
Margaret Sullivan b 1876
William Sullivan b 1877
Kate Ann Sullivan b 17 Apr 1879

Anne

Hi Anne,

FYI - the road from Dunedin to Christchurch goes Dunedin, Oamaru, Timaru, Temuka, onward, following the coast road. It looks to me that the family spread upwards towards Christchurch.

You are doing great things here Anne.

Sappho

I did forget to mention that Fleur Sullivan is from Oamaru and is famous for her culinary skills.

Google Fleur Sullivan NZ! Sullivans' in the area - one living on Eden Street. Again using the Telecom NZ Residential Numbers using Oamaru, you will see them listed.

Sappho

You two are amazing keep it up. Sappo I would love a photo if you can find anything at the cemetery. What a pity about the house number. I wondered if they still were having children Anne. I wonder what happened to Julia I saw on papers past that a young women Julia Sullivan died in Hokatika with a clot in her lung but her age didn't fit our Julia too young. My husbands father had a wedding photo of Johanna and John's son John Sullivan (they apparently called Jack) and then a family one with his wife Matty and daughter Mary amongst all his family photos, we found them after he had died so have no idea who they are. My husbands great grandmother was a Bridget Sullivan from Ireland and that is all the information we have nothing on her marriage cert. and only has a burial cert that I have found she born 1847 came to Naseby N.Z 1863? I have always wondered if there is somehow a connection.

Haven't they all left us a mystery to solve.

Thankyou Anne and Sappo I am anjoying all the info.
regards.
Carol

I too saw that death date for Jullia Sullivan ( from lung probs) but as you say, she was 21yrs old whilst yours would be 27 at the time of death

I am looking at the possibility that your Julia married Frederick Williams in 1895.
There are other possible marriages, but this is the only one that I have looked a so far, and I have established that Julia and Frederick Williams also lived in Otago.

I have said it before.... NZ geography is not my strong point!

I will to come back to this later... probably tomorrow

Anne