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Marriage: 6 Oct 1803 St Paul, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Skinner - Mariner of Liverpool
Sarah Page - (X), Spinster of Liverpool
Witness: Wm. Flin?; Edward Coventry, Jnr.
Married by Licence by: George Monk Minister
Register: Marriages 1773 - 1810, Page 241, Entry 78
Source: LDS Film 1656374

sarah d. 1824

1871 census for Elizabeth Skinner
place of brith looks like Sorby Yorkshire

best match seems to be Sowerby , part of Halifax

Marriage: 22 Sep 1810 St Anne Richmond, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Samuel Garnett - Mariner of Liverpool
Elizabeth Maddock - (X), Widow of the same parish
Witness: Elizabeth Royce; Thos. Holden
Married by Licence by: Wm Blundell Minr.
Register: Marriages 1810 - 1813, Page 8, Entry 5013
Source: LDS Film 1656150

Marriage: 30 May 1825 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
William Garnett - (X), Labourer of this Parish
Elizabeth Donnely - (X), Widow of this Parish
Witness: W. Maybrick; Robert Johnson
Married by Banns by: John Pulford B. D. Curate
Register: Marriages 1823 - 1825, Page 275, Entry 821
Source: LDS Film 93918

Sorry LancashireAnn. I am having a senile moment. I was thinking of Crosby.

Corby is about 116 miles from Liverpool , so you are correct.

Sylvia :-S

Are you sure Sylvia? Whereabouts is it please for future ref?

I thought Corby was Northants

Christine

Corby is deffinately in Liverpool.

Sylvia :-)

Just want to say a big thank you to those who have taken the time to research things for and although I'm still not certain whereElizabeth Skinner was born(could be Sowerby) quite a few other things have come to light.
Thanks again
chris

just wondering if William Skinner b. 1821 was in fact William Garnett from Elizabeth's first marriage

Name: William Garnett
Estimated Age: 34
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1817
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire
Issue Date: 22 Oct 1851
Issue Port: Liverpool
Certificate Number: 40.374

Source Information:
Ancestry.com. Great Britain, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data: Master's Certificates. Greenwich, London, UK: National Maritime Museum.

on the national archives

Name Skinner, William Place of Birth: Liverpool Number: 40215

Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Royal Naval Reserve, Representative Records of Service. FIRST CLASS DECK RATINGS. Name Skinner, William Place of Birth: Liverpool Number: 40215.

Collection: Records of the Board of Trade and of successor and related bodies
Date range: 01 January 1838 - 31 December 1838
Reference:BT 164/2/215
Subjects:Merchant seaman, Navy

Baptisms: 28 Nov 1830 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ann Jane Skinner - Child of William Skinner & Elizabeth
Abode: Garden St
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: J. Pulford Curate
Register: Baptisms 1830 - 1831, Page 267, Entry 2132
Source: LDS Film 93878

with the inconsistencies between the 2 marriages I wonder if they were actually 2 different Ann Janes especially with different fathers named


edit - just realised Ann was Lewis on the 1851 census

You are all working hard!
I have both marriage certs (Lewis & Phillips) for my 2x gt grandmother Ann Jane Skinner . What threw me was that when she married David Lewis she was a spinster And her father was Joseph Skinner and when she married George Phillips (my 2x gt grandfather ) she was still a spinster and her father was William. Maybe this was because she was a minor when she first married and married without her parents consent, who knows. Both husbands where in the Royal artillery , both stationed at Birchfield Barracks in 1851 and Lewis' father was the Barrack sergeant! Whatever happened to Lewis?!

Marriage: 8 Nov 1836 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Nicholas Grumley - (X), Mariner of This Parish
Elvira Garnett - Spinster of This Parish
Witness: John McKee; Jane McKee
Married by Banns by: Oliver Ormerod A M Curate
Register: Marriage 1836 - 1837, Page 69, Entry 206
Source: LDS Film 93919

unfortunately father's name not given.

Grumley again!

Marriage: 12 Jan 1857 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
George Phillips - 26 Soldier Bachelor of Albert St
Ann Jane Skinner - 23 Spinster of Albert St
Groom's Father: Henry Phillips, Joiner
Bride's Father: William Skinner, Sailor
Witness: Henry Clark; Eliza Grumley
Married by Banns by: N. J. Hindley Minister
Register: Marriages 1854 - 1860, Page 85, Entry 169
Source: LDS Film 2147914

beat me Vicci!

Marriage: 12 Jan 1857 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
George Phillips - 26 Soldier Bachelor of Albert St
Ann Jane Skinner - 23 Spinster of Albert St
Groom's Father: Henry Phillips, Joiner
Bride's Father: William Skinner, Sailor
Witness: Henry Clark; Eliza Grumley
Married by Banns by: N. J. Hindley Minister
Register: Marriages 1854 - 1860, Page 85, Entry 169
Source: LDS Film 2147914

Ann Jane Skinner marriages to Lewis and Phillips

groom's name: David Lewis
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Ann Jane Skinner
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 14 Jan 1851
marriage place: St. Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: David Lewis
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name: Joseph Skinner
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status: Single
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status: Single
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M00725-7

Marriages Mar 1857 (>99%)

Phillips George W. Derby 8b 481
Skinner Ann Jane W Derby 8b 481

sorry - should have said this would be Eliza's son's birth

Births Sep 1842 (>99%)
Grumley Nicholas Liverpool 20 465

Thanks Vicci,

Chris

name: Ann Jane Skinner
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 28 Nov 1830
baptism/christening place: St. Peter's Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Skinner
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I07850-2


groom's name: Nicholas Grumley
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Eliza Garnett
bride's birth date:
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bride's age:
marriage date: 08 Nov 1836
marriage place: Saint Peter Church Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M02095-8

Hi lancashireAnn, this gets more confusing! I have seen Nicholas & Eliza Grundy on the 1851 census and looking again at the 1871 it does look more like Grumley. Maybe the next step is to look at the OPC site for the marriage details although I' m not sure where that will get me. Anyone any other ideas?? :-( I also have problems on the Skinner side, but that's another story ....
Thanks again everyone,
Chris

there was an Eliza Garnett married a Nicholas Grumley in 1836

Nicholas Grundy on 1851 census is registered as Nicholas Grumley

so as Elizabeth Skinner was a widow on her marriage to William Skinner was her previous married name Garnett rather than Garner?