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Will tell him that and see what he says.

Thanks once again Sue.

Mel.

Have thought of looking for George with a birth date nearer Ediths birth date as he was 19 years older than her.

As if he was born around 1893/4.

Your friend really needs to send for the marriage cert to see how old George was pertaining to be..

As he was actually only about 8 years younger than her father..

George Tummon and Edith Peterken are his grandparents their dau Mary Tummon 1929 was his mother.

I have found the other married one too Mel !!

I just wonder if perhaps he was a bigamist and that was why the marriage and children details were crossed out ???

Just a thought!

Dea Xxx

Thaks Sue and yes we know that. It is really just George we can't find. I suppose he could have been travelling at the time of the census?? and just been missed off.

Still I suppose we will never know...................................

I did have a look at millitary records but could only find a George Tummon from Derby and when I looked he had a wife and two children so I ruled that one out.

Mel..
I have been looking for George and thought he might have been with one of his siblings.
But no luck so far and I have traced all of his siblings.

2 of George's siblings died as infants,
2 older,1 in teens other in early 20's.

the rest married.

William ands Elizabeth had 10 children and 6 living in 1911.

Maybe Mel - Could have been a STD which he passed on - quite rife at the time (there was a war on after all and many of them came back home with such things).

We cannot judge !!

Dea xxx

I think the second marriage was in Romford Essex as that is Where Edith \mabel Peterken was born. It comes under West Ham. I am from that way and West Ham covers a big area for births.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edith Mabel Peterken
Name: Edith Mabel Peterken
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 105

There is also this birth which I suspect was George's baby which I think died too.

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Edith M Peterken
Name: Edith M Peterken
Mother's Maiden Surname: Peterken
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1917
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 871

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Edith M Peterken
Name: Edith M Peterken
Birth Date: abt 1917
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1917
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Romford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 700

I wonder if it was his fault a lot of his children died? I don't mean that in a bad way..................................

Yes Stuart it does seem as though Fanny died either in or just after childbirth with Ivy.

I am still trying to find George on the 1911 but I suppose he could have been anywhere. It is a strange surname to look up as it could be transcribed as anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have tried many.

I had presumed that that was the case Stuart - sadly !! :-(

Dea Xxx

Did Fanny die in or due to childbirth - same qtr as Ivy's birth.

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: TUMMON, Fanny
Registration district: Hull
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1916
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 31
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 302

2 further births Tummon/mmn Elwick post Sep Qtr 1912 in Hull RD
Ellen Jun Qtr1913
Ivy Sep Qtr 1916
So either George was still around somewhere - that would fit in with the death reg. (or that's the surname they were given at Registration).

Did George re-marry?

Ancestry trees suggest this one but I don't understand why it is in Romford?

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)

Peterken Edith M Tummon Romford 4a 932
Tummon George Peterken Romford 4a 932

There are a further 8 children born in Hull?

Dea Xxx

The other two children who died were James 1908 - 1908 and Lily 1910 - 1910.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about James William Tummon
Name: James William Tummon
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1908
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 202

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Lily Tummon
Name: Lily Tummon
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 205

Possible - other children who died


George was born june 1905.died Mar 1909

James William born Dec 1908 -Died Dec 1908

Lily born Mar 1910 -died Mar 1910

Thanks Sue and yes that could be one of the dead children. As they had a dau Fanny George woud fit nicely thanks.

Oh, I see! - GB meant that the Fanny one I posted on 1911 weas under Tummers on Ancestry !! :-S :-D :-D - I thought she had found George !!! :-(

Yes - I saw the 'for' bit and also presumed that she could not write.

Dea Xxx

I can Dea.

1911 England Census
about Fanny Tummers
Name: Fanny Tummers
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Margarets Terrace Wassand Street Hull
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Hull
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Piece: 28794
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Tummers 26
Fanny Tummers 4
Harriett Elizth Tummers Under 3/12

The address is the same as on other census. Margarets Terrace.

RG14; Piece: 28794

On the bottom bit where the address is it says For Fanny Tummon so perhaps she could'nt write?

Can you post the 1911 that you are referring to GB as I can't see the one you mean?

Dea x

Possible 1 of the children's deaths...

Civil registration event: Death

Name: TUMMON, George
Registration district: [?] Hull
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1909
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:3
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 168