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Eddie
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22 Feb 2013 09:02 |
Hi to one and all Please see if you can help solve this puzzle, I was mainly looking for Ada E couldrake born about 1900 Wiltshire, she appears in the 1901 c with parents henry/jane , but in the 1911c her parenrs are listed as john/Hannah they both have the same children . and can not find the marriage for either
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 09:13 |
It states on the 1911 that John and Hannah had been married for 10 years.
Edit:.......oops no.......it says years married.....N K ? (Not Known)
10 children born and living.
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 09:43 |
How very odd!!
Odd too that Henry/Jane........John/Hannah and son John does not seem to appear in the 1891 census.
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 09:45 |
For ref.......
Household transcription 1911 census Person: COULDRAKE, Ada Address: 27 Newtown Trowbridge
COULDRAKE, John Head Married M 44 1867 Stoker Wiltshire Westbury VIEW COULDRAKE, Hannah Wife Married F 48 1863 Somerset Farleigh Hungerford VIEW COULDRAKE, John Son Single M 22 1889 Porter Wiltshire Edington VIEW COULDRAKE, Hubert Son Single M 19 1892 Porter Wiltshire Edington VIEW COULDRAKE, Albert Son Single M 18 1893 Builders Labourer Wiltshire Edington VIEW COULDRAKE, Percy Son Single M 17 1894 Builders Driver Horse Wiltshire Edington VIEW COULDRAKE, Eva Daughter Single F 15 1896 Wool And Worsted Feeder Wiltshire Edington VIEW COULDRAKE, Eveline Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW COULDRAKE, Ada Daughter F 10 1901 School Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW COULDRAKE, Edith Daughter F 8 1903 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW COULDRAKE, Lily Daughter F 6 1905 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW COULDRAKE, Alec Son M 4 1907 Wiltshire Trowbridge VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 11967 Reference: RG14PN11967 RG78PN665 RD247 SD2 ED7 SN266 Registration District: Melksham Sub District: Trowbridge Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Trowbridge Address: 27 Newtown Trowbridge County: Wiltshire
1901 England Census about Ada Cauldrake Name: Ada Cauldrake Age: 8 Months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Henry Cauldrake Mother's name: Jane Cauldrake Gender: Female Where born: Hilpt Marsh, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Trowbridge Ecclesiastical parish: Staverton St Paul Town: Trowbridge County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Melksham Sub-registration district: Trowbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Piece: 1932 Folio: 7 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Henry Cauldrake 36 (Farley Castle Somerset) Jane Cauldrake 35 John Cauldrake 12 Herbert Cauldrake 9 Albert Cauldrake 8 Percy Cauldrake 6 Eva Cauldrake 5 Eveline Cauldrake 2 Ada Cauldrake 8 Months
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:01 |
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 Name: Ada Elizabeth Hillman Birth Date: 17 Jul 1900 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1975 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Trowbridge Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 23 Page: 2032
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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22 Feb 2013 10:08 |
Using second names maybe?
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Gee
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22 Feb 2013 10:14 |
I wonder if this is the couple?
Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Couldrake Harry Westbury, W. 5a 205 Lawrence Annie Alberta Westbury, W. 5a 205
Edit: Second thoughts, this couple seem to apprear on the 1911 :-(
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:15 |
Buy Ada's birth cert..............for full parental details
Henry and John give different birthplaces
Henry's occ; General Labourer Port Watchman
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ErikaH
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22 Feb 2013 10:21 |
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Births Mar 1889 (>99%) Couldrake Arthur John Westbury, W. 5a 136
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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22 Feb 2013 10:40 |
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about John Couldrake Name: John Couldrake Gender: Male Christening Date: 5 Dec 1867 Christening Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England Mother's name: Jane Couldrake
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 10:45 |
This might be John in 1881...
?? 1881 England Census about John Coldric Name: John Coldric [John Coldrake] Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Step Son Mother's name: Jane Burgess Gender: Male Where born: Bratton, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Westbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Low Bratton Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Edington ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2053 Folio: 26 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Burgess 68 Jane Burgess 63 Effraim Coldric 19 John Coldric 13 Harry Coldric 11
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Alemap
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22 Feb 2013 10:46 |
1871 name: John Couldrake event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Male age: 3 relationship to head of household: Inmate birthplace: Westbury, Wiltshire record type: Household registration district: Westbury sub-district: Westbury event parish: Westbury county: Wiltshire inmate Jane Couldrake F 41 Erlestoke, Wiltshire inmate Mary Couldrake F 11 Westbury, Wiltshire inmate Ephraim Couldrake M 8 Berkley, Somerset inmate John Couldrake M 3 Westbury, Wiltshire inmate Henry Couldrake M 1 Westbury, Wiltshire
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 10:51 |
In the Union Workhouse...
1871 England Census about John Couldrake Name: John Couldrake Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Westbury, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Westbury Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 1931 Folio: 51 Page Number: 3
Thomas Conldenke 10
Jane Cauldrake 41(Widow) Ag Lab Mary Cauldrake 11 Ephraim Cauldrake 8 John Cauldrake 3 Henry Cauldrake 1
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22 Feb 2013 10:52 |
1881 name: John Coldric age: 13 gender: Male birth year: 1868 birthplace: Bratton, Wiltshire, England relationship to head of household: Step Son marital condition: Single profession/occupation: Scholar address: Low Bratton census place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England disability: record type: Household family history library film: 1341494 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2053 / 26 page number: 12 Household Gender Age Birthplace head John Burgess M 68 Bratton, Wiltshire, England wife Jane Burgess F 63 Bratton, Wiltshire, England step son Effraim Coldric M 19 Bratton, Wiltshire, England step son John Coldric M 13 Bratton, Wiltshire, England step son Harry Coldric M 11 Bratton, Wiltshire, England
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 10:54 |
1861 England Census about Jane Coldrick Name: Jane Coldrick Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Ephram Coldrick Gender: Female Where born: Earlstoke, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Beckington County/Island: Somerset Country: England Street Address:
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Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Frome Sub-registration district: Road ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 1656 Folio: 24 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Ephram Coldrick 28 Jane Coldrick 27 Mary Coldrick 17 Months Thomas Coldrick 1 Months
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22 Feb 2013 11:08 |
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Henry Coldrake Name: Henry Coldrake Gender: Male Christening Date: 21 Jun 1870 Christening Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England Mother's name: Jane Coldrake
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 11:13 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Ephraim Coldrake Name: Ephraim Coldrake Spouse Name: Jane Early Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1854 Registration district: Westbury Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume Number: 5a Page Number: 270
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 11:18 |
1841 England Census about Ephraim Coldrick Name: Ephraim Coldrick Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Edington Hundred: Whorwelsdown County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Edington Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1188 Book: 16 Folio: 8 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Coldrick 30 Ann Coldrick 35 Ephraim Coldrick 10 Benjaman Coldrick 5 Henry Coldrick 1 Charlotte Paradise 60
There are 2 other Coldrick/Coldrake familes on this census record.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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22 Feb 2013 11:29 |
In the Union Workhouse.
Jane is a Widow
1871 England Census about John Couldrake Name: John Couldrake Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where born: Westbury, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Westbury Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 1931 Folio: 51 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age William Williams 27 George Hulbert 51 James Vaviour 55 Hannah Brown 73 Ann Knight 58 Catherine Varr 70 Ruth Dick 60 James Doel 44 William Gawin 76 James Orchard 72 John Francis 64 William Coombs 44 John Townsend 76 Henry Hayward 35 George Buyer 47 Thomas Conldenke 10 ********************Reads Couldrake John Jeffries 55 John Collier 70 James Smith 53 John Saufear 66 William Ferris 79 Henry Drewek 25 Charles Cockrell 18 Stephen Mattheas 74 Harriett Taylor 38 John Taylor 14 William Taylor 2 Mary Ann Cheap 19 Charles Cheap 1 Hannah Bailey 19 Jane Couldrake 41 ********************* Mary Couldrake 11 Ephraim Couldrake 8 John Couldrake 3 ********************** Henry Couldrake 1 ************
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PricklyHolly
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22 Feb 2013 11:41 |
I did wonder if John died between 1901 and 1911 and his Brother Henry/Harry took on his children in 1911.........but here is Henry/Harry in the 1901 and 1911
1911 England Census about Henry Couldrake Name: Henry Couldrake Age in 1911: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Westbury, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Edington County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address: Tinhead, Westbury, Wilts Marital Status: Married Years married: 17 Estimated Marriage Year: 1894 Occupation: Labourer Road Man Registration district: Westbury Registration District Number: 249 Sub-registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 12007 Household Members: Name Age Henry Couldrake 39 (Labourer Road Man) Annie Couldrake 38 William Couldrake 16 Winnie Couldrake 8 Alfred Champion 29 (Boarder) (Married 17 years....4 children born, 3 living, 1 had died)
1901 England Census about William Coldrake Name: William Coldrake Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 Relation: Son Father's Name: Harry Coldrake Mother's name: Annie Coldrake Gender: Male Where born: Bratton Civil parish: Edington Ecclesiastical parish: Edington Town: Tinhead County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Westbury Sub-registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 66 Piece: 1939 Folio: 77 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Harry Coldrake 29 Annie Coldrake 28 William Coldrake 6 Nellie Coldrake 4
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