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Hi again,

Finally got wedding cert for Stephen Parker and Eliza Waghorn and it fits with info I have . Eliza 's father was was John Waghorn Labourer I think its says 27 Peel Street Maidstone - Sept 1874 Stephen Parker is at 29 Peel street. Neither Stephen or Eliza could write their names, signing with a cross. Witnesses were John and Emily Gorham Stephens Sister and Brother in law.

Can anyone tie in background of John Waghorn father to Eliza A Waghorn b 1857 Please

Yes its easy to get side tracked. The Parkers are easier as we have passed on family info. But wives coming in are more difficult to trace. Especially the further back you go.

Thanks again for help
Derek

Wouldn't you like to be SURE you have the right info or are you happy to settle for probabilities ?

Someone on Ancestry has done just that and mixed up at least 2 Eliza Waghorn's. Their tree shows the one born in Farleigh as marrying Stephen Parker, and then has her death as 1875 when she was still having children in 1898.

Don't do the same ... buy a certificate

Sorry i was given info on Fredericks Birth certificate and mother was Nee Eliza A Waghorn

Thank you all for your support. I need to assimilate what info is here and pursue a birth certificate for Parker link.

Thanks again for starter for 10.

Derek

1874 - marriage in Maidstone is more likely. We have strong links with maidstone and near maidstone - Eastry and Cranbrook are probably too far away

Buy the birth cert for your grandfather to see what her maiden name is

1901 may be correct but we still need to be sure which Eliza married Stephen.

You need her father's name from the marriage cert

Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
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Bailey Sarah Elizabeth Eastry 2a 1547
Gunner Henry Eastry 2a 1547
Parker Stephen Eastry 2a 1547
Sawyers Elizabeth Eastry 2a 1547


Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
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LARKIN Elizabeth Cranbrook 2a 1149
PARKER Stephen Cranbrook 2a 1149
SHARP Charles Cranbrook 2a 1149
STRUCKETT Matilda Cranbrook 2a 1149



Could be any of these marriages or the one in 1874

Mike 1901 info is correct fits in with info i have on Stephen Parker, - Frederick Parker is my grandfather

The Eliza Waghorn born East Farleigh had a father David.

What name does she give for her father on her marriage cert ?

1861
Name: Eliza Waghorn
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David Waghorn
Gender: Female
Where born: East Farleigh, Kent, England

Civil parish: East Farleigh
County/Island: Kent

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
Parker Stephen Maidstone 2a 975
WAGHORN Eliza Maidstone 2a 975

Do have a birth cert showing the name of STephen Parker and Eliza Waghorn ?

What about this one in 1861 -

WAGHORN, David Head Widower M 51 1810 Farm Bailiff
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
WAGHORN, David Son Unmarried M 15 1846 Agricultural Labourer
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
WAGHORN, Rebecca Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
WAGHORN, Frederic Son M 10 1851 Scholar
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
WAGHORN, Amos Son M 8 1853 Scholar
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
WAGHORN, Eliza Daughter F 4 1857
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW
JAY, William Son In Law Married M 22 1839 Agricultural Labourer
Wetheringsett, Suffolk VIEW
JAY, Caroline Daughter Married F 24 1837 Agricultural Labourerd Wife
East Farleigh, Kent VIEW

Piece: 499 Folio: 114 Page: 1 Registration District: Maidstone Civil Parish: East Farleigh Municipal Borough: Address: Dean Street, East Farleigh County: Kent

According to the census the only time that the middle initial A turns up is in 1901.

Do you have her marriage certificate to see who her father is??

1911 ?
Name: Stephen Parker
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Maidstone
Civil parish: Maidstone
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Boxley Road, Maidstone
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Fruiterer
Registration district: Maidstone
Registration District Number: 51
Sub-registration district: Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 4140
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Parker 62
Eliza Parker 54 - sweet Factory Packer
George Parker 32
Ernest Parker 27
Frederick Parker 25
Walter Parker 23
Maud Parker 21
Gertrude Parker 18
Sidney Parker 13
William Staff 18



I posted the date of possible marriage earlier on this thread

1901

Name: Eliza A Parker
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Sehhen Parker
Gender: Female
Where born: Town Sutton, Kent, England <<<<<

Civil parish: Maidstone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: 13


Sehhen Parker 52 - general dealer
Eliza A Parker 45
George A Parker 23
Ernest S Parker 19
Frederick R Parker 15
Walter T Parker 13
Maud M M Parker 11
Getrude B E Parker 9
Sidney J Parker 3

Guess i will have to get marriage cert for them but have no idea when they wed

Sorry folks have very little - Im OK with Parkers but not Eliza

There are 3 Eliza Waghorns on 1871 born 1856/7 in Kent which is why we need to know if you have the marriage cert for the name and occupation of her father

i have that she made confection from my father before he died and he suggested she had a shop in Sutton Valence