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I have a marriage certificate for Lydia & Edward dated 13 November 1892 both are aged 20. Lydia's father is listed as John Hill and is deceased. Edward's father is listed as Thomas Wallis. Edward is listed as living at 33 East Street and Lydia Hill as living at 15 Williams Place. The marriage took place The Parish Church in the Parish of St Peter Walworth.

Although I have Ancestry and Findmypast membership I am having great difficulty in finding these families on the 1881and 1891 census records.

I would be really grateful for any help anyone can give me.

Many thanks

Nicki

Hi Nicki

What is the occupation of the fathers and who were the witnesess'

They married in 1892, not 1872


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Edward Wallis Labourer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Lydia Hill
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Nov 1892
Parish: Walworth St Peter
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Wallis Labourer
Spouse Father Name: John Hill General dealer
Register Type: Parish Register

Is this them on the 1901?


1901 England Census about Lydia Wallis
Name: Lydia Wallis
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward Wallis
Gender: Female
Where born: Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 328
Piece: 1254
Folio: 32
Page Number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Wallis 55
Lydia Wallis 45
Walter Allexr Wallis 8

Have you checked freebmd to make sure that they didn't die?

Or do you know that they had children?

Thomas Wallis is down as labourer and John Hill as General Labourer.

The witnesses are C Jessup and Julia Taylor

Apologies wedding date was 1892

I am trying to go back on both families, if possible.

Nicki

So that alters the search criteria :-)

Shirley

That isnt them on the 1901 - sorry about altering the search criteria by wrong date

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For some factual info about them

1911 census

Person: WALLIS, Lydia Address: 56 Ranelagh Road Pimlico

WALLIS, Edward Head Married M 39 1872 Wood Cuttng Machinist Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Lydia Wife Married19 years F 38 1873 Southwark Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Edward Son Single M 16 1895 Labourer Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Henry Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Lydia Daughter F 13 1898 S Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1900 S Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, John Son M 6 1905 S Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, Emily Daughter F 4 1907 Lambeth Surrey VIEW
WALLIS, William Son M 1 1910 Pimlico Middlesex

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Lydia Hill
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Aug 1873
Father's Name: John Hill Gen Dealer
Mother's name: Julia Hill
Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth All Saints
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

I guess Julia is the witness on her marriage entry

Lydia's 'deceased' father may have been invented......just a thought to bear in mind........

1891 census

Person: HILL, Lydia Address: 5, Union Street, Lambeth

HARDING, James Head Married M 28 1863 Sawyer
Sussex VIEW
HARDING, Alice L Wife Married F 24 1867 Machinist
Southwark, London VIEW
HARDING, Ada A Daughter F 4 1887
Lambeth, London VIEW
HARDING, Alice J Daughter F 1 1890
Lambeth, London VIEW
READING, Annie A Visitor Single F 18 1873 Ironer
Southwark, London VIEW
HILL, Lydia Visitor Single F 18 1873 Box Maker
Southwark, London

Thanks Reggie for the census info for 1891.

Nicki

Gins

Thank you for the baptism record.

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This looks like her parents and siblings. Lydia and Henry are inmates on the 1881 census


1871 England Census

Name: Henry Hill
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Hill
Mother's name: Julia Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Southwark
Civil parish: St George the Martyr Southwark
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Borough Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 604
Folio: 45
Page Number: 23
Household Members: Name Age
John Hill 42 <<Dealer
Julia Hill 40
William Hill 12
John Hill 9
Emma Hill 5
Henry Hill 2

Possible death for her father


Deaths Mar 1874
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Hill John 58 St Saviour Southwark 1d 94

Gins

Thank you.

Why would they be inmates?

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1891 (address as Marriage?)
WALLACE, Thomas Head Married M 64 1827 Labourer
Co Cork
WALLACE, James Son Single M 21 1870 Horse Keeper
Lambeth
WALLACE, Patrick Son Single M 19 1872 Labourer
Lambeth
WALLACE, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Lambeth
Piece: 395
Folio: 76
Page: 15
Registration District: Lambeth
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Municipal Borough:
Address: 33, East Street, Lambeth
County: London

Chris :)

Chris, wow, thank you

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