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Susan
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11 May 2013 13:52 |
Please could anyone help in finding a Stephen Dicks born in 1700s in Wiltshire who had a son George employed as a train driver. Thank you.
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MarieCeleste
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11 May 2013 13:57 |
Susan, if you can tell us more about George the train driver it would help us work back to his father with a degree of accuracy.
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ArgyllGran
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11 May 2013 14:47 |
Just in case there's any connection - though Stephen wouldn't have been born in 1700s - here's a George Dicks who's a train driver, with father named Stephen. Lots more census etc records, but will wait and see what Susan says:
1901 England Census about George Dicks Name: George Dicks Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Dicks Gender: Male Where born: Boscombe, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Trowbridge Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Trowbridge County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Railway Engine Driver Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Melksham Sub-registration district: Trowbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 214 Piece: 1932 Folio: 146 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age George Dicks 47 Elizabeth Dicks 48 Christine C Dicks 15
1871 England Census about George Dicks Name: George Dicks Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Stephen Dicks Mother's Name: Elizabeth Dicks Gender: Male Where born: Boscombe, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Over Wallop Town: Over Wallop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Stockbridge Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 75 Piece: 1205 Folio: 83 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Dicks 44 - born Idmiston, Wilts. Elizabeth Dicks 40 George Dicks 16 Emma Dicks 14 Elizabeth Dicks 12 Diclard James Dicks 10 - Richard mistranscribed as Diclard Frank Dicks 8 Month
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AnnCardiff
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11 May 2013 15:12 |
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Name: Stephen Dickes Gender: Male Christening Date: 1803 Christening Place: , IDMISTON, WILTSHIRE, ENGLAND Father's Name: William Dickes Mother's Name: Ann Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C15211-1 System Origin: England-VR GS Film number: 1279336 Reference ID: - 2:1Z7LWT2
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patchem
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11 May 2013 18:47 |
Susan has Stephen Dicks born 1830, Wiltshire in her tree on here.
Added: She also has George Dicks, born 1854, place unknown, in her tree.
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patchem
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11 May 2013 20:05 |
This could be George's birth to fit with the 1871 census that argyllgran posted Births Sep 1854 Dicks George Amesbury 5a 171
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patchem
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11 May 2013 20:13 |
? 1841 England Census Stephen Dicks Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Idmiston Hundred: Alderbury County/Island: Wiltshire Registration district: Amesbury Sub-registration district: Winterbourne Piece: 1164 Book: 9 Folio: 11 Page Number: 16 Jonathan Dicks 40 Mary Dicks 35 James Dicks 6 Mo Stephen Dicks 14 Martha Dicks 11 Henry Dicks 9 Ann Dicks 7 Roseann Dicks 5 Jonathan Dicks 4 Charles Dicks 3 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1164; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Idmiston; County: Wiltshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 11; Page: 16; Line: 3; GSU roll: 464192.
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Susan
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11 May 2013 21:49 |
Thank yoiu all for replying this is the right family. Iam trying to follow George's siblings also what happened to his son and daughter so I can come forward.
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patchem
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11 May 2013 23:45 |
Have you looked to see if anyone else on genes has any of the family in their trees? (You use the Search/Search All Trees box above) You can then contact them for further information?
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 00:24 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Christine Cecilia Dicks Name: Christine Cecilia Dicks Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1885 Registration district: Barton Regis Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 122
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Christine Cecelia Dicks Name: Christine Cecelia Dicks Spouse Name: George Peacock Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904 Registration district: Melksham Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume Number: 5a Page Number: 280
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Christine Celia Peacock Name: Christine Celia Peacock Birth Date: 11 Sep 1885 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1969 Age at Death: 84 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 7b Page: 344 Births, marriages and deaths can easily be found here.........
www.freebmd.org.uk/
Household transcription 1911 census Person: PEACOCK, Christine Ciecila Address: 19 Addison Road Brislington Bristol
PEACOCK, George Head Married M 27 1884 Railway Porter Albury Guildford Surrey VIEW PEACOCK, Christine Ciecila Wife Married7 years F 25 1886 Bristol Somerset VIEW PEACOCK, William Frank Son M 5 1906 Durrington Wiltshire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 14942 Reference: RG14PN14942 RG78PN904 RD319 SD4 ED15 SN77 Registration District: Bristol Sub District: Knowle Enumeration District: 15 Parish: Bristol Address: 19 Addison Road Brislington Bristol County: Gloucestershire (2 children born and living)............there must be another child somewhere.
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 00:36 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Frank Herbert Dicks Name: Frank Herbert Dicks Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1879 Registration district: Barton Regis Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 119
Household transcription 1911 census Person: DICKS, Frank Herbert Institution: 1st Battn Wiltshire Regiment, 1ST BATTALION WILTSHIRE REGIMENT, PIETERMARITZBURG, NATAL, SOUTH AFRICA Military details: Lance Corporal 1st Wiltshire Regt DICKS, Frank Herbert Single ? 32 (32 YEARS) 1879 Wiltshire Salisbury VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 34977 Reference: RG14PN34977 RD641 SD2 ED2 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Address: Pretermaritzburg Natal South Africa County: Overseas military
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 00:43 |
UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 about Frank Herbert Dicks Name: Frank Herbert Dicks Discharge Unit: Wilts Regt. Regiment Number: 14571 Rank: Sergt. Badge Number: 1766 Unit: Infantry (Exeter) Piece: 3016 List Number: C 0001-0300 Record Group: WO Record Class: 329
British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about Frank Herbert Dicks Name: Frank Herbert Dicks Regiment or Corps: Wiltshire Regiment Regimental Number: 14571
Will pop back on this thread tomorrow.
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patchem
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12 May 2013 08:36 |
I was assuming that George was your direct ancestor, so you would have information on either his son or daughter, as they would also be your direct ancestor. Could you state which is your ancestor - how did you get back to this family? Thank-you.
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 08:53 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Frank H Dicks Name: Frank H Dicks Spouse Name: Eiza Jane Janes Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1912 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume Number: 6a Page Number: 47
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Eliza J Dicks Name: Eliza J Dicks Birth Date: abt 1892 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1922 Age at Death: 30 Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 172
Births Sep 1917 (>99%) Dicks Frank Janes Bristol 6a 132
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 10:04 |
George's Sister Emma......
1911 England Census about Emma Dicks Name: Emma Dicks Age in 1911: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Over Wallop, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Over Wallop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Rose Hill, Middle Wallop, Stockbridge, Hants Marital Status: Single Occupation: Cook, Housekeeper Domestic Registration district: Stockbridge Registration District Number: 102 Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 6096 Household Members: Name Age Nathaniel Thomas Southwell 42 Annie Margaret Southwell 40 Ernest Percival Southwell 17 Dora Mary Southwell 13 Margaret Southwell 9 Evelyn Eva Southwell 6 Kathleen Annie Southwell 3/12 Annie Louise Southwell 35 Emma Dicks 54 >>>> Agnes Hiscock 23 Ellen Stretch 24 Ruth Robinson 17
Web: International, Find A Grave Index about Emma Dicks Name: Emma Dicks Death Date: 22 Mar 1930 Burial Place: Over Wallop, Hampshire, England http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=DI&GSpartial=1&...
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Emma Dicks Name: Emma Dicks Birth Date: abt 1857 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1930 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Stockbridge Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 149
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PricklyHolly
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12 May 2013 10:41 |
Sister Elizabeth married Charles Cook who appers with her and her parents on the 1881 census.......
1881 England Census about Elizabeth Dicks Name: Elizabeth Dicks Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Stephen Dicks Mother's Name: Elizabeth Dicks Gender: Female Where born: Over Wallop, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Over Wallop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stockbridge Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1227 Folio: 66 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Dicks 54 Elizabeth Dicks 50 Elizabeth Dicks 22 Charles Cook 23 England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Elizabeth Susan Dicks Name: Elizabeth Susan Dicks Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1859 Registration district: Stockbridge Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2c Page: 79
Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%) Cook Charles Alderbury 5a 328 DICKS Elizabeth Alderbury 5a 328
1891 England Census about Elizabeth Cook Name: Elizabeth Cook Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Cook Gender: Female Where born: Over Wallop, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Over Wallop Ecclesiastical parish: Over Wallop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stockbridge Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 932 Folio: 55 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Charles Cook 33 Elizabeth Cook 32 Charles Rd Cook 8 Emma Cook 6 Frank Cook 1
1901 England Census about Elizabeth Cook Name: Elizabeth Cook Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Cook Gender: Female Where born: Wallop, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Over Wallop Ecclesiastical parish: Over Wallop St Peters Town: Over Wallop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stockbridge Sub-registration district: Broughton ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 84 Piece: 1078 Folio: 71 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Charles Cook 43 (Fyfield Hampshire) Carter on Farm Elizabeth Cook 42 Charles Cook 18 Emma Cook 16 Frank Cook 11
Elizabeth died in 1904....
Deaths Dec 1904 (>99%) COOK Elizabeth 45 Stockbridge 2c 63
It seems Charles remarried..........
Household transcription 1911 census Person: COOK, Charles Address: Over Wallop Stockbridge Hampshire
COOK, Charles Head Married M 53 1858 Labourer On Farm Fyfield Hants VIEW COOK, Sarah Ann Wife Married1 years F 51 1860 New Forest Hants VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 6096 Reference: RG14PN6096 RG78PN280 RD102 SD1 ED6 SN109 Registration District: Stockbridge Sub District: Broughton Enumeration District: 6 Parish: Over Wallop Address: Over Wallop Stockbridge Hampshire County: Hampshire
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Susan
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12 May 2013 11:03 |
Patchem and Pricklyholly thank you so much the information you have found is brilliant adds some meat to my bones so to speak.
George Dicks is I am convinced my Great Grandad. George married my Grandmother Susan Farmer the year his wife died in 1911. My Grandad was illegitimate but the records I found ie baptism and birth in Marylebone workhouse list his father as George Herbert Haycroft but sifting through everything I think George Dicks was the father but because he was married he could not officially put his name on the birth certificate. I think Christine and Frank are half siblings to my grandad often wondered if perhaps they knew about their dad's extra marital affair. It explains why my grandad was brought up in Bristol. I had nothing to go on with my grandad's birth and name took a long time to find out that mystery I have a photo of Susan and George. My dad never knew his grandad but my Auntie said they had a Grandma Dicks who came to visit them in Plymouth. Why was there such a stigma to being illegitimate doesn't help in researching family ancestors. It is so lovely to know that Grandad had family I bet he never knew shame. My grandmother had him at age 39 and kept him so George would have helped with finances and he must have loved my grandmother because they married when he was free and they were elderly.
Thanksagain to all.
Susan
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ArgyllGran
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12 May 2013 11:38 |
George's brother James (Richard James in 1871 already posted) :
Births Jun 1861 (>99%) DICKS Richard Stockbridge 2c 76
Living with George in 1881:
1881 England Census about James Dicks Name: James Dicks Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Warop, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Bristol St Philip and Jacob Out County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 34 William St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Plumbers Labourer Registration district: Barton Regis Sub-registration district: St Philip & St Jacob ED, institution, or vessel: 42 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2500 Folio: 88 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age George Dicks 26 Elizabeth Dicks 25 Frank Dicks 1 Martha Hawkins 20 Richard Hawkins 2
By 1891, married and living in Clapham, working as gas stoker:
1891 England Census about James Dicks Name: James Dicks Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Dicks Gender: Male Where born: Wallofa, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Clapham Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Clapham County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Wandsworth Sub-registration district: Clapham ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 441 Folio: 46 Page Number: 34 Household Members: Name Age James Dicks 29 Maria Dicks 32 Ellen Dicks 5 Frank Dicks 4 George Dicks 2 Robert Dicks 2 Months John Hall 30
By 1901, promoted to foreman at gas works:
1901 England Census about James Dicks Name: James Dicks Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maria Dicks Gender: Male Where born: Wallap, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Rotherhithe Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 19 Piece: 397 Folio: 6 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age James Dicks 39 Maria Dicks 42 Frank Dicks 14 George Dicks 12 Robert Dicks 10 Lillian Dicks 5 Thomas Waters 30
1911, he's a traction engine driver for a brewery;
1911 England Census about James Dicks Name: James Dicks Age in 1911: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Wallop, Hampshire Civil parish: East Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street Address: 27 Whitfield Road, Upton Park, Essex E Marital Status: Married Occupation: Fraction Engine Driver Registration district: West Ham Registration District Number: 188 Sub-registration district: North East Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 467 Piece: 9563 Household Members: Name Age James Dicks 49 Maria Dicks 52 Lillian Dicks 15
A guess at his death, based on age: Deaths Mar 1927 (>99%) Dicks James 65 Westbury, W. 5a 210
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12 May 2013 11:38 |
There is a tree on Ancestry that has this family.....with photo's too.
Tree name.......Martin Moody Bulpitt Dicks Waters Tree owners name......oliviaj2
You can check out the tree here on Ancestry's sister site......
www.mundia.com/gb/?
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ArgyllGran
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12 May 2013 11:40 |
George's brother Frank:
Births Sep 1870 (>99%) DICKS Frank Stockbridge 2c 82
Deaths Dec 1872 (>99%) DICKS Frank 2 Stockbridge 2c 47
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