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New Zealand. Dakin: Robert and Amy:

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Lynne

Lynne Report 27 May 2013 23:31

Update: now have the death certificate for Frederic Dakin, first and only son of Robert and Amy. He didn't go to New Zealand with them but Louisa did.
Frederic died on the 22nd May 1861 from 'inflammation of the lungs'. - he was 11 months old.
Robert, Amy and Louisa, along with Amos, Amy's younger brother set sail from Gravesend on September 24th 1875 on the ship Carnatic. They were part of a group of approx. 50 passengers; 118 days later they landed in New Zealand.
How brave they were!

Lynne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 23:36

Could this be Frederick's burial?

Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985

Name: Robert Frederick Dakin
Age: 3/12
Burial Date: 11 Sep 1859
Parish: Hulme, St George
Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St Gabriel
Father's Name: Robert Dakin
Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/3/5

EDIT: No - this one's mother was Ellen.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 May 2013 23:37

1861 just for info

Name: Robert Dakin
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Amy Dakin
Gender: Male
Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: joiner and beer house keeper

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Chorley
Sub-registration District: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 250
Piece: 3121
Folio: 58
Page Number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Dakin 25
Amy Dakin 23 born Standish
Frederick Dakin 9 Months

Class: RG 9; Piece: 3121; Folio: 58; Page: 49; GSU roll: 543082.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 23:44

Could be a coincidence:

Manchester Evening News - 2 October 1894

DEATHS

Dakin - Died at his residence Avondale, near Auckland, New Zealand. June 9th 1894, Robert Dakin formerly of Chorlton and Manchester.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 23:49

On the 1861 Robert was a joiner and beer house keeper.

This one is a hotel keeper:

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981

Name: Robert Dakin
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1890
District: Eden
Region or Province: Auckland

Lived in Whau

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 23:51

New Zealand, City & Area Directories, 1866-1955

Name: Robert Dakin
Year: 1892-1893
Residence: Avondale, Auckland

Described as a settler.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 May 2013 00:00

New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981

Name: Amy Dakin
Electoral Year: 1896
District: Eden
Region or Province: Auckland

Lived Avondale, residential duties. No other Dakins on the ER.

Seems to tie in with that 1894 death.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 May 2013 00:04

?? Possible ??

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: DAKIN, Frederic

Registration district: Chorley
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1861
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 287

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 May 2013 00:06

Robert and Amy's grave:
http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Amy%20Dakin&grave=205874&personid=435107&db=205874

You can request a free image by email.

They also appear to have the grave indexed as Robert David Dakin (1836 to 1894) and Amy Rose Ada Dakin (1837 to 1896)

Lynne

Lynne Report 28 May 2013 01:05

Marie-Celeste
You are amazing, perchance I put all the info I had into Google and found the photographs of the gravestone. It's now 1.00 am and I haven't got any further but it certainly looks like them. I've searched the passenger lists available but can't find them. I have put out a call for any descendents on the Auckland message board so hopefully I might get a response. It looks as if they had some relations out there as someone put up the rather elaborate gravestone. I wonder if daughter Louisa went out to join them? That's for another day.
Many thanks
Lynne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 May 2013 07:57

Hi Lynne - I think it's the first time I've ever had a match for someone on that gravestone site!

Outgoing passenger lists from UK don't start until 1890 so they would have already been in NZ by then.

I'd suggest going to your first post and clicking "edit" - you could then amend the title of the thread to include "New Zealand". People from all over the globe help on these boards so someone who knows about relevant records may spot it and be able to help further.

Good luck!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 28 May 2013 08:47

ACCIDENTS & FATALITIES.
Auckland Star, 1 October 1896

(relating to Amy Dakin, NZ Newspapers below link)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Chris :)


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH18880417.2.22&srpos=9&e=-------10--1----0dakin+avondale--

(above about Fire at Hotel)


http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18850110.2.8&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0louisa+dakin--

(Louisa Marriage?)

Lynne

Lynne Report 31 May 2013 19:06

Thank you Chris and MarieCeleste, It certainly looks like Louisa actually joined her parents in New Zealand and that she married out there. Have edited the first post as suggested and who knows, maybe someone else can take the story a step further. Exciting!

Lynne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 May 2013 19:56

Lynne - if you google "Robert Dakin" "new zealand" avondale there is a lot of info comes up. Looked like he had a good life there and was very well respected.

ADDED:
Here's just one example, a brochure of walks in the area which has a photo of a cottage he built in 1886
http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/newseventsculture/heritage/Documents/blockhousebayheritagewalks.pdf

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 22:05

There is a Louisa Dakin married in 1884 to Richard Francis Bollard in NZ

They had seven children.

If you think this is her I can give you all their dates and spouses etc.

Persie

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 22:11

Louisa died in 1952 aged 89...

She was cremated but there is a photo of his grave and her name is on there as well but it is not a clear photo.

This is in Karori Cemetery in Wellington.. I will be in Wellington last week of August and could go and take a look and see if I can get a clearer photo of it.


Persie

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 22:35

January 1876

Mr and Mrs Dakin and child arrived on the ship Carnatic.

You can use snipping tool and snip from paper or change to computer generated text but then you have to proof read it as all sorts of scratches etc get translated into gibberish.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18760121.2.16&srpos=10&e=-------10--1----2robert+dakin--


Persie

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 22:39

If I have the right Louisa (which is probably her)

Their son died in 1942 (memorial in Karori with parents) ..

Full Name
Harold Francis Bollard
Rank Last Held
Lieutenant
Forename(s)
Harold Francis
Surname
Bollard
War
World War II, 1939-1945
Serial No.
5/2300
Gender
Male
Occupation before Enlistment
Barrister and Solictor
Next of Kin
Mizpah Annie Bollard (wife), Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand
Marital Status
Married, 1 child
Last Unit Served
New Zealand Military Forces, Home Guard
Place of Death
New Zealand
Date of Death
23 August 1942
Age at Death
37
Year of Death
1942
Cause of Death
Killed in an aircraft accident
Cemetery Name
Karori Cemetery, Wellington, New Zealand
Grave Reference
6J. C2.
Memorial Name
Auckland War Memorial Museum, World War 2 Hall of Memories
Biographical Notes

Harold Bollard was the son of the Hon. Richard Francis Bollard and Louisa Bollard; husband of Mizpah Annie Bollard, of Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand.
Attended Hamilton High School, Waitaki College and Victoria University of Wellington

re Missing plane:

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19420824.2.10&srpos

Persie... Will return later..

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 22:43

Just had a look through the list of Louisa's children and one of them is Richard Dakin Bollard.

So will go through files and put it all together..

Cheers Persie

Persephone

Persephone Report 31 May 2013 23:12

We have a Bollard Avenue in Avondale and the name is quite well known.. This is about Louisa's husband.

http://timespanner.blogspot.co.nz/2008/11/r-f-bollard-1863-1927.html


Son - Richard Dakin Bollard born 1898, died 30 May 1916 in Waikato Hospital.

Robert John Bollard born 1892

Full Name
Robert John Bollard
Forename(s)
Robert John
Surname
Bollard
War
World War I, 1914-1918
Serial No.
33120
First Known Rank
Sergeant Major
Occupation before Enlistment
Farmer
Next of Kin
R.F. Bollard, M.P. (father), Tamahere, via Hamilton, New Zealand
Body on Embarkation
New Zealand Expeditionary Force
Embarkation Unit
24th Reinforcements (Second Draft) Specialist Company, Signal Section
Embarkation Date
26 April 1917
Place of Embarkation
Wellington, New Zealand
Transport
HMNZT 82
Vessel
Pakeha
Destination
Plymouth, England

Died 1963 aged 72... He married Marjorie Bessie Black Holden in 1923.

Aimee Jane Bollard born 1885 died 1886 aged 8 months

Marjorie and Doris... twins born 18 Nov 1894

Marjorie married 1929 Milton Rowley Aldridge .. she died 1976 (she was known as Madge)

Doris married Duncan Amadale Bennet 1919 .. she died 1975

Muriel Jessie born 26 May 1889 married in 1956 to Charles Henry Rea she died 1978.


There is quite a bit about this family re weddings and little bits of social niceties that they used to go in for.

Persie