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Lynne
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27 May 2013 23:31 |
Update: now have the death certificate for Frederic Dakin, first and only son of Robert and Amy. He didn't go to New Zealand with them but Louisa did. Frederic died on the 22nd May 1861 from 'inflammation of the lungs'. - he was 11 months old. Robert, Amy and Louisa, along with Amos, Amy's younger brother set sail from Gravesend on September 24th 1875 on the ship Carnatic. They were part of a group of approx. 50 passengers; 118 days later they landed in New Zealand. How brave they were!
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MarieCeleste
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27 May 2013 23:36 |
Could this be Frederick's burial?
Manchester, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985
Name: Robert Frederick Dakin Age: 3/12 Burial Date: 11 Sep 1859 Parish: Hulme, St George Parish as it Appears: Hulme, St Gabriel Father's Name: Robert Dakin Reference Number: GB127.M383/1/3/5
EDIT: No - this one's mother was Ellen.
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27 May 2013 23:37 |
1861 just for info
Name: Robert Dakin Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Amy Dakin Gender: Male Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Chorley Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Chorley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: joiner and beer house keeper
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration District: Chorley Sub-registration District: Chorley ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 250 Piece: 3121 Folio: 58 Page Number: 49 Household Members: Name Age Robert Dakin 25 Amy Dakin 23 born Standish Frederick Dakin 9 Months Class: RG 9; Piece: 3121; Folio: 58; Page: 49; GSU roll: 543082.
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MarieCeleste
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27 May 2013 23:44 |
Could be a coincidence:
Manchester Evening News - 2 October 1894
DEATHS
Dakin - Died at his residence Avondale, near Auckland, New Zealand. June 9th 1894, Robert Dakin formerly of Chorlton and Manchester.
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MarieCeleste
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27 May 2013 23:49 |
On the 1861 Robert was a joiner and beer house keeper.
This one is a hotel keeper:
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Robert Dakin Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1890 District: Eden Region or Province: Auckland
Lived in Whau
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MarieCeleste
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27 May 2013 23:51 |
New Zealand, City & Area Directories, 1866-1955
Name: Robert Dakin Year: 1892-1893 Residence: Avondale, Auckland
Described as a settler.
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MarieCeleste
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28 May 2013 00:00 |
New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Amy Dakin Electoral Year: 1896 District: Eden Region or Province: Auckland
Lived Avondale, residential duties. No other Dakins on the ER.
Seems to tie in with that 1894 death.
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MarieCeleste
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28 May 2013 00:04 |
?? Possible ??
Civil Registration event: Death
Name: DAKIN, Frederic
Registration district: Chorley County: Lancashire Year of registration: 1861 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Volume no: 8E Page no: 287
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MarieCeleste
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28 May 2013 00:06 |
Robert and Amy's grave: http://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?available=yes&fullname=Amy%20Dakin&grave=205874&personid=435107&db=205874
You can request a free image by email.
They also appear to have the grave indexed as Robert David Dakin (1836 to 1894) and Amy Rose Ada Dakin (1837 to 1896)
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Lynne
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28 May 2013 01:05 |
Marie-Celeste You are amazing, perchance I put all the info I had into Google and found the photographs of the gravestone. It's now 1.00 am and I haven't got any further but it certainly looks like them. I've searched the passenger lists available but can't find them. I have put out a call for any descendents on the Auckland message board so hopefully I might get a response. It looks as if they had some relations out there as someone put up the rather elaborate gravestone. I wonder if daughter Louisa went out to join them? That's for another day. Many thanks Lynne
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MarieCeleste
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28 May 2013 07:57 |
Hi Lynne - I think it's the first time I've ever had a match for someone on that gravestone site!
Outgoing passenger lists from UK don't start until 1890 so they would have already been in NZ by then.
I'd suggest going to your first post and clicking "edit" - you could then amend the title of the thread to include "New Zealand". People from all over the globe help on these boards so someone who knows about relevant records may spot it and be able to help further.
Good luck!
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Chris Ho :)
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28 May 2013 08:47 |
ACCIDENTS & FATALITIES. Auckland Star, 1 October 1896
(relating to Amy Dakin, NZ Newspapers below link)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
Chris :)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH18880417.2.22&srpos=9&e=-------10--1----0dakin+avondale--
(above about Fire at Hotel)
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18850110.2.8&srpos=1&e=-------10--1----0louisa+dakin--
(Louisa Marriage?)
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Lynne
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31 May 2013 19:06 |
Thank you Chris and MarieCeleste, It certainly looks like Louisa actually joined her parents in New Zealand and that she married out there. Have edited the first post as suggested and who knows, maybe someone else can take the story a step further. Exciting!
Lynne
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MarieCeleste
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31 May 2013 19:56 |
Lynne - if you google "Robert Dakin" "new zealand" avondale there is a lot of info comes up. Looked like he had a good life there and was very well respected.
ADDED: Here's just one example, a brochure of walks in the area which has a photo of a cottage he built in 1886 http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/newseventsculture/heritage/Documents/blockhousebayheritagewalks.pdf
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 22:05 |
There is a Louisa Dakin married in 1884 to Richard Francis Bollard in NZ
They had seven children.
If you think this is her I can give you all their dates and spouses etc.
Persie
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 22:11 |
Louisa died in 1952 aged 89...
She was cremated but there is a photo of his grave and her name is on there as well but it is not a clear photo.
This is in Karori Cemetery in Wellington.. I will be in Wellington last week of August and could go and take a look and see if I can get a clearer photo of it.
Persie
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 22:35 |
January 1876
Mr and Mrs Dakin and child arrived on the ship Carnatic.
You can use snipping tool and snip from paper or change to computer generated text but then you have to proof read it as all sorts of scratches etc get translated into gibberish.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS18760121.2.16&srpos=10&e=-------10--1----2robert+dakin--
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 22:39 |
If I have the right Louisa (which is probably her)
Their son died in 1942 (memorial in Karori with parents) ..
Full Name Harold Francis Bollard Rank Last Held Lieutenant Forename(s) Harold Francis Surname Bollard War World War II, 1939-1945 Serial No. 5/2300 Gender Male Occupation before Enlistment Barrister and Solictor Next of Kin Mizpah Annie Bollard (wife), Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand Marital Status Married, 1 child Last Unit Served New Zealand Military Forces, Home Guard Place of Death New Zealand Date of Death 23 August 1942 Age at Death 37 Year of Death 1942 Cause of Death Killed in an aircraft accident Cemetery Name Karori Cemetery, Wellington, New Zealand Grave Reference 6J. C2. Memorial Name Auckland War Memorial Museum, World War 2 Hall of Memories Biographical Notes
Harold Bollard was the son of the Hon. Richard Francis Bollard and Louisa Bollard; husband of Mizpah Annie Bollard, of Remuera, Auckland, New Zealand. Attended Hamilton High School, Waitaki College and Victoria University of Wellington
re Missing plane:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19420824.2.10&srpos
Persie... Will return later..
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 22:43 |
Just had a look through the list of Louisa's children and one of them is Richard Dakin Bollard.
So will go through files and put it all together..
Cheers Persie
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Persephone
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31 May 2013 23:12 |
We have a Bollard Avenue in Avondale and the name is quite well known.. This is about Louisa's husband.
http://timespanner.blogspot.co.nz/2008/11/r-f-bollard-1863-1927.html
Son - Richard Dakin Bollard born 1898, died 30 May 1916 in Waikato Hospital.
Robert John Bollard born 1892
Full Name Robert John Bollard Forename(s) Robert John Surname Bollard War World War I, 1914-1918 Serial No. 33120 First Known Rank Sergeant Major Occupation before Enlistment Farmer Next of Kin R.F. Bollard, M.P. (father), Tamahere, via Hamilton, New Zealand Body on Embarkation New Zealand Expeditionary Force Embarkation Unit 24th Reinforcements (Second Draft) Specialist Company, Signal Section Embarkation Date 26 April 1917 Place of Embarkation Wellington, New Zealand Transport HMNZT 82 Vessel Pakeha Destination Plymouth, England
Died 1963 aged 72... He married Marjorie Bessie Black Holden in 1923.
Aimee Jane Bollard born 1885 died 1886 aged 8 months
Marjorie and Doris... twins born 18 Nov 1894
Marjorie married 1929 Milton Rowley Aldridge .. she died 1976 (she was known as Madge)
Doris married Duncan Amadale Bennet 1919 .. she died 1975
Muriel Jessie born 26 May 1889 married in 1956 to Charles Henry Rea she died 1978.
There is quite a bit about this family re weddings and little bits of social niceties that they used to go in for.
Persie
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