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Hi,
Can anyone out there help ?
i am searching for my maternal great grandmother mary ellen hall, i have found her on the 1911 census when she was married to my great grandfather john william denny in skipton yorkshire, it does not state her place of birth on the census only ox wrote in red,from the 1911 census i worked her DOB to 1877 but have since got a copy of her wedding cert and now believe it to be 1876 as she was 28 when she got married on 26/12/1904, the only info i have for her is what is on the marriage cert, she was a domestic servant, her father was john hall,he was deceased at time of wedding and his occupation had been a quarryman, i dont know place of her birth, mothers name or of any siblings,i cant find any trace of her before she was married, i am hoping theres some good detectives out there who may be able to help!! many thanks :-) :-) :-) :-)

may be a long shot, father is a quarryman

1881
HALL, John Head Married M 32 1849 Quarryman (Stone)
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Mary Ann Wife Married F 33 1848
Cartmel, Lancashire VIEW
RALPH, John Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Ulverston, Lancashire VIEW
RALPH, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Thomas Son Single M 4 1877
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, James Son Single M 0 1881
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 3 1878
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Jane Daughter Single F 1 1880
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 4280

Folio: 6

Page: 6

Registration District: Ulverston

Civil Parish: Aldingham

Municipal Borough:

Address: Baycliff Village, Aldingham

County: Lancashire

For information

Marriage Record
Name Mary Ellen Hall
Year of Marriage 1904
Quarter of Marriage Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Skipton
Registration County Yorkshire
Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912
Volume Number 9A
Volume Page 70

Spouse Match

Mary Ellen Hall married one of the people below:

John Alfred CHADDOCK View
John William DENNY View
Susannah RICHMOND View

Hi,
thanks for your quick response, i have also looked at this one , i was a bit unsure because of the 1875 DOB for mary ellen , when i thought it was 1877 or 76. Would i be able to find out when this john hall actually died ? because if i found that to be before 1904 it would give me a little more evdence that i could be on the right track.
i am fairly new to this , but i seem to have been able to trace my great grandads side pretty easy but im stuck with mary ellen,
thanks again maddie :-)

just interesting to note on 1911 census one of her sons is Thomas James and the Mary Ellen in 1881 has two brothers Thomas and James but probably a coincidence
Maddie

thats something to think about , im going to see if i can find out when this john hall died ,because if it was before 1904 i could be on the right track.

thanks jayne

Not seeing a Skipton death

Is this her ?


Name: Mary E Denny
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957
Age at Death: 83
Registration District: Staincliffe
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2d
Page: 393

hi
found her death in the index of wills and administrations-
denny - mary ellen of 26 brougham - street , skipton,yorkshire ,
died 21/10/1957.
showing my grandmothers and great aunts name

Her death date would tie with the qtr on the above death ref,.

The will shows her home address. She may have died elsewhere

It's the right district

STAINCLIFFE REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : Yorkshire West Riding (1947–74); North Yorkshire (1974–98).
Created : 1.1.1947 (out of Skipton, Keighley and Settle registration districts).
Abolished : 1.10.1998 (to become part of North Yorkshire registration district).
Sub-districts : Barnoldswick, Cross Hills, Grassington, Skipton, Staincliffe.
GRO volumes : 2D (1947–74), 2 (1974–92).
Registers currently held at : North Yorkshire and Lancashire.

i think it is yorkshire west riding, but the DOB sounds a little early . i get it to about 1876,
hope i can get as quick as everyone else finding out this info,
thanks everyone :-)

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Name: Mary Hall
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Preston, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Balderstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Balderstone St Leonard
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Blackburn
Sub-registration District: Mellor
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 33
Piece: 3903
Folio: 62
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Noblet 33
Agnes Noblet 34
Ann Noblet 3
Mary Winifred Noblet 2
Mary Hall 26
Samuel Hall 16 occ servant b Blackburn lancs
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3903; Folio: 62; Page: 6.

the servant ties in and DOB is near, if i can find this mary ellen in an earlier census and her dad is called john and is a quarryman it could be , is there an easy way of tracing ancestors that worked as servants not living with their familys

don't be put off by the age on the death reg - it is only as good as the person registering the death knows.

Who were the witnesses on the marriage certificate please?

the witnesses on mariage cert are arthur ernest denny who i believe is the grooms brother and the other witness is annie whitehead but i dont know who she is, what it does say on the marriage cert is at time of marriage mary ellen lived on high street which i am guessing must be in skipton

FOR ELIMINATION ONLY

I thought I was onto something here, as this John Hall's a stone quarryman. Mary E's YOB's a little out, but that's not unusual in censuses.
And he has died before 1901.

BUT in 1911, Mary E is shown as Mary Elizabeth, and is single.
Another theory bites the dust!


1881 England Census about Mary E. Hall
Name: Mary E. Hall
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John F. Hall
Mother's Name: Ann Hall
Gender: Female
Where born: Morley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Britannia Rd
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Dewsbury
Sub-registration District: Morley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4543
Folio: 23
Page Number: 42
Household Members:
Name Age
John F. Hall 34
Ann Hall 32
Thomas Hall 6
Mary E. Hall 2

Hi

seem to not be having any luck finding these on later census , can anyone advise why, or where to try next
thanks
1881
HALL, John Head Married M 32 1849 Quarryman (Stone)
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Mary Ann Wife Married F 33 1848
Cartmel, Lancashire VIEW
RALPH, John Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Ulverston, Lancashire VIEW
RALPH, William Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Thomas Son Single M 4 1877
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, James Son Single M 0 1881
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Mary Ellen Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Scales, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 3 1878
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW
HALL, Jane Daughter Single F 1 1880
Baycliff, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 4280

Folio: 6

Page: 6

Registration District: Ulverston

Civil Parish: Aldingham

Municipal Borough:

Address: Baycliff Village, Aldingham

County: Lancashire

1891 census transcription details for: Scales, Aldingham, Scales

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3478
Folio: 6
Page: 6
Reg. District: Ulverston
Sub District: Dalton
Parish: Aldingham
Enum. District: 1
Ecclesiastical District: St Cuthbert's
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Scales, Aldingham, Scales
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HALL, Mary A Head Widow F 44 1847 CharwomanCartmel, Lancashire
HALL, Jane Daughter F 11 1880 ScholarAldingham, Lancashire
HALL, James Son M 10 1881 Scholar Aldingham, Lancashire
HALL, Matthew Son M 8 1883 Scholar Aldingham, Lancashire
HALL, Joseph Son M 6 1885 Scholar Aldingham, Lancashire

thanks,
i did look at this but was unsure, thought maybe john hall was now deceased, and the older children would have moved on but thought maybe mary ellen and elizabeth would have still shown on there along with jane.
would you guess that john must have died after 1885 as the younger children still have his surname ?

jayne

?? Civil Registration event: Death

Name: HALL, John
Registration district: Ulverston
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1887
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 39
Volume no: 8E
Page no: 573