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Wungle

Wungle Report 3 Jun 2013 22:54

Pticklyholly -thanks for that -you've sorted most of my work ofr the Hitch's out for me.

T

Wungle

Wungle Report 3 Jun 2013 22:52

Thanks all,

Only just got back and found your entries,
Yes Fredk that is the son.
I think Theo must have changed his name at some point.
I;ve sent off for the marriage cert so hopefully all will become clear.

Terry

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Jun 2013 21:53

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Herbert Hitch Name: Herbert Hitch
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1882
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 709



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Herbert Hitch Name: Herbert Hitch
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1905
Age at Death: 23
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 22

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Jun 2013 21:12

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Alfred Hitch Name: Alfred Hitch
Spouse Name; Elizabeth Sammons
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1876
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume Number: 6b
Page Number: 868


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Jun 2013 21:06

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Alfred Hitch Name: Alfred Hitch
Birth Date: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1936
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 772



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Alfred Hitch Name: Alfred Hitch
Probate Date: 2 Jun 1936
Death Date: 7 Jan 1936
Death Place: Staffordshire, England
Registry: London, England

Of.... 65 Stafford Street, Walsall, Staffordshire.

To William Alfred Hitch......commercial clerk.
Effects: £4624 15s 11d



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Elizabeth Hitch Name: Elizabeth Hitch
Birth Date: abt 1856
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Age at Death: 72
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 744





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Jun 2013 20:58

1901 England Census
about Alfred Hitch Name: Alfred Hitch
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hitch
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Walsall
Sub-registration District: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 22
Piece: 2699
Folio: 111
Page Number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Hitch 49
Elizabeth Hitch 44
William Alfred Hitch 20
Herbert Hitch 19
Annie Elizabeth Hitch 13
Florence Hitch 10
Ellen Mary Hitch 8
Frank Hitch 5
Dora Hitch 1


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HITCH, Alfred
Address: 65 Stafford St Walsall

HITCH, Alfred Head Married M 59 1852 Hair Dresser Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Elizabeth Wife Married34 years F 55 1856 Newton Road VIEW
HITCH, William Alfred Son Single M 29 1882 Hairdresser Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Annie Daughter Single F 23 1888 Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Florence Daughter Single F 20 1891 Clerk Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Ellen Mary Daughter Single F 17 1894 Sewing Machinist Tailoring Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Frank Son Single M 15 1896 Clerk Walsall VIEW
HITCH, Dora Daughter Single F 11 1900 School Walsall VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17163
Reference: RG14PN17163 RG78PN1057 RD370 SD3 ED6 SN38
Registration District: Walsall
Sub District: Walsall
Enumeration District: 6
Parish: Walsall
Address: 65 Stafford St Walsall
County: Staffordshire
(9 children born, 7 living, 2 had died)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 3 Jun 2013 20:52

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Edith Hitch Name: Edith Hitch
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1877
Registration District: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 752


1891 England Census
about Edith Hitch Name: Edith Hitch
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred Hitch
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hitch
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Walsall Foreign
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Walsall
Sub-registration District: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2252
Folio: 87
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Hitch 38 (Hair Dresser)
Elizabeth Hitch 34
Edith Hitch 14
William A Hitch 10
Herbert Hitch 9
Annie E Hitch 3
Florence Hitch 10/12


1881 England Census
about Edith Hitch Name: Edith Hitch
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred Hitch
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hitch
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Walsall Borough
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 14 Peel St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Walsall
Sub-registration District: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2822
Folio: 131
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Hitch 29 (Hair Dresser)
Elizabeth Hitch 24
Edith Hitch 4
William Alfred Hitch 8 mnths





MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jun 2013 20:48

Yes, looks like it. I can't find a definite death for Theophilus, there's a chap of the same name died 1944, but I've found his birth in 1866 in Solihull and tracked him through census so a different person.

I'm wondering if Theophilus was an assumed name.

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jun 2013 20:37

Thanks MC...................

The certificate is defo needed then

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 3 Jun 2013 20:31

I had a look at the image of that 1871 census and I'd say the name for the lad born in 1859 is Thomas W.

This is that family in 1861:

GEORGE, John Head Married M 27 1834 Coal Miner Salop
GEORGE, Jane Wife Married F 26 1835 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Mary ... Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Wednesfield, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Thomas H Son M 2 1859 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
GEORGE, Edward Brother Unmarried M 25 1836 Coal Miner Salop
INFANT Son M 0 (12H) 1861 Wednesfield, Staffordshire

Piece: 2003 Folio: 80 Page: 3
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Civil Parish: Wednesfield

Address: 17, New Cross, Wednesfield County: Staffordshire

Although it's been transcribed as Thomas H here, it's definitely a "W" on the image.

Fredk

Fredk Report 3 Jun 2013 19:54

Is this the son

George, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name: Frank Arthur George
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Sep 1909
Christening Place: Christ Church, Coseley, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Theophilus George
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Edith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I06812-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1470590
Reference ID: 2411
Sources

Wungle

Wungle Report 3 Jun 2013 17:28

I will, but it's looking more and more like you're right


ta Gins

And thanks to everyone else who put their two penneth in for me too.

Terry

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jun 2013 17:02

Yeah, get the certificate, with any luck a sibling might be a witness and of course his father should be named, if he knew him

safc

safc Report 3 Jun 2013 16:59

County Staffordshire
Place Wednesfield
Church St Thomas
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 24 Apr 1870
Forename Edward
Sex M
FatherForename John
MotherForename Jane
FatherSurname GEORGE
MotherSurname
Abode New Cross
FatherOccupation Miner
Notes
FileNumber 28099

Wungle

Wungle Report 3 Jun 2013 16:53

Could be Gins -think I'm going to need that marriage certificate though.

T

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jun 2013 16:53

HI safc

Thanks for that, can you have a look at the image as it doesn't look like either of the transcriptions above

safc

safc Report 3 Jun 2013 16:51

????

Mary Ann George in household of John George, "England and Wales Census, 1871"
Name: Mary Ann George
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-District: Willenhall
Parish: Wednesfield
County: Staffordshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self John George M 47 Lilleshall, Shropshire
Wife Jane George F 36 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Daughter Mary Ann George F 14 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son Thomas N George M 12 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son John E George M 7 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Daughter Sarah J George F 4 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Daughter Ann M George F 3 Wednesfield, Staffordshire
Son Edward George M 0 Wednesfield, Staffordshire

found here https://familysearch.org

Gee

Gee Report 3 Jun 2013 16:42

Can someone take a look at this image. It's not how it's been transcribed



1871 England Census
Name:Thomasine George
Age:12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859

Relation:
Son

Father's Name:
John George

Mother's Name:
Jane George

Where born:
Wednesfield, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish:
Wednesfield
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Thomas
County/Island:
Staffordshire
Country:
England
Registration District:
Wolverhampton

Sub-registration District:
Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel:24
Household Schedule Number:8 Piece:2947

Folio:20 Page Number:2

John George 27
Jane George 36
Mary Ann George 14
Thomasine George 12
John E George 7
Sarah George 4
Ann M George 3
Elora George 11 Months







Wungle

Wungle Report 3 Jun 2013 16:24

Thanks Frank

T

Fredk

Fredk Report 3 Jun 2013 16:22

Just for reference

1901 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 69 Regent Street
Civil Parish Walsall
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Andrews
Parliamentary Borough or Division Walsall
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Walsall
Administrative County Staffordshire
Householder 1
Name Edith George
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Stafford Walsall
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Florence E George
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 1
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Warwick B.gham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Theophilus George
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 40
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Milk Retailer Seller
Employment Status
Where Born Stafford Stafford
Language
Infirmity