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Hi Flip,
The people in the grave with Lilian are
William Thomas Whitworth b 1872 d 1916
Ivy Whitworth b 1910 d 1933
James b 1919 d 1921
William Thomas Johnson b 1932 d 1938 mother's maiden name Whitworth
Grace Tonge b c 1875 d 1923,
The children I found for John Whitworth and Sarah Bevington were
Margaret b c 1869 little hulton
Thomas b c 1871
William T b c 1872
John b c 1876
Henry b c 1878
Herbert b 1880 d 1880 all registered Whitworth
Regards
Valerie
:-D
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Hi Flip,
Found the grave of
Sarah Whitworth who died 1909 other people in grave with her are
Percy Died 1897
Fred Died 1895
James Died 1894
Florrie Died 1892
Sarah Alice Died 1891
John Died 1890 and a John Thomas Sumner Died 1891
Regard's
Valerie
:-D
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Sorry, but I've had visitors but will look at this again in the morning.
However, John Thomas Sumner was married to Margaret Whitworth (the one I eliminated from previous census) in 1888 (I think from memory) and died aged just 22 - she was with her mother and brother on the subsequent census as a widow with 2 children. She subsequently re-married.
You don't have all John & Sarah's children - there were earlier ones, Robert was the first that I can see (on 1861 census, born Oldham) but I don't have time to find the census at the moment.
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All those in the grave with Sarah Whitworth (d 1909) are infants born locally apart from John buried in 1890 - don't seem to be able to tie him in. Her husband John died between 1881 and 1891 so wonder if it is him, but he died out of the area?? Are there any other details on John's burial?
In the other grave with Lilian, Grace Tonge (d1923) was William Thomas's (d1916) unmarried sister in law ( with them on 1911 census) but haven't checked out the rest.
Still doesn't get you any nearer to your original objective to find your Thomas Whitworth Bevington though. If he was born Whitworth, I just can't understand why he would go back through a couple of generations to re-invent the original Sarah Bevington name? Or even if he was born Bevington, why use the name whitworth?
Emoticons don't work on this laptop but I'd be confused right now!!!
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Welcome Thomas Whitworth
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Little Lever, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Farnworth
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 127 Cack Market Street Farnworth Near Bolton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Plater In Bleachlborks
Registration District: Bolton
Registration District Number: 461
Sub-registration District: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Piece: 23255
Household Members: Name Age
William Thomas Whitworth 39 << the one in the grave
Mary Whitworth 38
Welcome Thomas Whitworth 16 <<<<
Robert Whitworth 15
William Tonge Whitworth 11
Sarah Ellen Whitworth 9
Walter Whitworth 8
Wilfred Whitworth 4
Ivy Whitworth 1 << ditto in grave
Grace Tonge 35 << ditto in grave
I just wonder if anyone can find anything more on Welcome Thomas Whitworth?? With a name like Welcome, you may be tempted to change it - and he is the right age - and I can't see a death for him in England/Wales.
Is he a likely suspect for your Thomas????
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Hi Flip,
I saw the Welcome T Whitworth on Lancashire bmd but thought nothing of it and just found is baptism on OPC . It was a Private Baptism at St Matthew's Church Little Lever on the 15-08-1894
Received into the Church on Nov 3rd, But can't find nothing else.
I think I would have changed my name if i had been called welcome.
I will try to get his marriage cert next week and see if the information all tie's together
Thank you again for all the hard work
Regards
Valerie :-D
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Hi Valerie
Do any of the burial records give addresses by any chance? It's just ancestry has a military record for Thomas Whitworth (no Welcome mentioned) but there are a couple of discrepancies. Firstly this one was a coal miner, secondly he names father as Thomas, although his mother and brothers are named correctly. The family address was 6 Nelson St, Farnworth when he enlisted 22/1/1914. The stated age ties up, 19y 160 days = dob 14/8/1894.
Thomas Whitworth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Age at enlistment: 19
Birth Parish: Little Lever
Birth County: Lancashire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 10681
Regiment Name: Border
Number of images: 14
Incidently, Sarah Bevington/Whitworth was living with the family in 1901 so he may have been close to her? Check your messages, I sent you one of the military images.
Added, I think William Thomas may have been known as Thomas - 1881 census makes no mention of William, he is down as just Thomas.
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