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9 Jul 2013 16:30 |
Thank you Maureen, this looks good. Enjoy your day. I hope to speak to you again. :-) :-) :-) :-)
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9 Jul 2013 16:07 |
That IS amazing!!!
Let's just keep our fingers crossed that we DO have the correct family for your Hannah.
I think this is Sarah:
Marriages Mar 1871 Haigh Sarah Sculcoates 9d 226a Procter George Sculcoates 9d 226a
1911 Census transcription details for: 9 Newmarket Street Grimsby National Archive Reference: RG14PN19958 RG78PN1197A RD422 SD1 ED12 SN198 Reg. District: Grimsby Sub District: Great Grimsby Parish: Great Grimsby Enum. District: 12 Address: 9 Newmarket Street Grimsby
PROCTER, Sarah Head Widow F 66 1845 Shop Keeper in Hosiery York County of Yorkshire SCOTT, Sarah Daughter Married F 27 1884 Assisting In The Business Grimsby Lincolnshire SCOTT, John James Son- In- Law Married M 27 1884 Electrical Wireman Sunderland Co Durham..... ..................
1891 census transcription details for: 9, New Market Street, Great Grimsby, Grimsby
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2615 Folio: 52 Page: 16 Reg. District: Caistor Sub District: Great Grimsby Parish: Great Grimsby Enum. District: 20 Ecclesiastical District: St Andrews City/Municipal Borough: Grimsby Address: 9, New Market Street, Great Grimsby, Grimsby County: Lincolnshire
PROCTOR, George Head Married M 53 1838 Engine Fitter Leeds, Yorkshire PROCTOR, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1845 York, Yorkshire PROCTOR, Emma Daughter Single F 16 1875 Machine Knitter Grimsby, Lincolnshire PROCTOR, Rosaleen Daughter F 14 1877 Grimsby, Lincolnshire PROCTOR, Alice Daughter F 12 1879 Grimsby, Lincolnshire PROCTOR, Isabella Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar Grimsby, Lincolnshire PROCTOR, Sarah Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Grimsby, Lincolnshire
Maureen Off to do some errands.
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9 Jul 2013 16:05 |
No unfortunately it only mentioned the details I posted on Sarah.
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9 Jul 2013 15:44 |
They certainly did have a lot of children, this is what is making it so confusing.
What is unbelievable, is that yesterday at this time I had absolutely no information on this family and could not understand their connection to Hull. Thanks to everyone's help I now know how my G Grandmother came to be in Hull and also where her parents lived for a time; Railway Cottages, Willerby. Before these cottages were demolished they were situated around a four minute walk from my house! Amazing!!
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9 Jul 2013 15:31 |
I have a feeling Margaret may have died as a child.
This might be Mary: 1861 census transcription details for: 2, Marine Row, Holy Trinity, Hull
RG number: RG09 Piece: 3593 Folio: 113 Page: 13 Reg. District: Hull Sub District: 3 Myton Parish: Holy Trinity Enum. District: 26 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Hull Address: 2, Marine Row, Holy Trinity, Hull ROUTLEDGE, Anthony Head Married M 40 1821 Sailor Easington, Durham ROUTLEDGE, Madalea Wife Married F 35 1826 France British Subject ROUTLEDGE, Edward M Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Merchants Clerk Hull, Yorkshire MCCALL, Thomas A Boarder Unmarried M 21 1840 Merchants Clerk London, Surrey >>>>HARAH, (Haigh on image)Mary Servant F 14 1847 House Servant Whitby, Yorkshire
I don't see Sarah. Did the site that you found mention a marriage for her?
Maureen
Margee-Thank you-you knew I couldn't stay away too long!!!
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9 Jul 2013 14:41 |
Ahh yes. Thank you Margee.
It's strange there is no mention of Sarah, Mary or Margaret in the 1861 census.
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9 Jul 2013 14:37 |
Hi Maureen,
Probably not as hot here as down there but still too hot for me. High 20's during the day but cooling down at night to about 20.
Good to see you back on site, Maureen, after your little break.
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9 Jul 2013 14:25 |
I agree with the marriage...but they had a LOT of children!
1891 census transcription details for: 610, Hessle Road, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull RG number: RG12 Piece: 3917 Folio: 114 Page: 31 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Newington Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: Newington City/Municipal Borough: Kingston upon Hull Address: 610, Hessle Road, Newington, West Ella North Ferriby, Kingston Upon Hull County: Yorkshire (East Riding)
HAIGH, John Head Married M 66 1825 Night??Foreman Clifton, Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife Married F 67 1824 Osbaldwick, Yorkshire ,,,,,,,,,,,, 1881 census transcription details for: Hessle Road, Newington
RG number: RG11 Piece: 4751 Folio: 7 Page: 7 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Newington Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Hessle Road, Newington County: Yorkshire (East riding)
HAIGH, John Head Married M 56 1825 Night Foreman Locomotive Engine Shed (D & M) York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife Married F 57 1824 York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Fanny Daughter Single F 29 1852 York, Yorkshire HAIGH, Agnes Daughter Single F 18 1863 Newington, Yorkshire HAIGH, Alice Daughter Single F 14 1867 Newington, Yorkshire HAIGH, John Son Single M 11 1870 Newington, Yorkshire ................ 1871 census transcription details for: Railway Cottages, Willerby RG number: RG10 Piece: 4777 Folio: 48 Page: 8 Reg. District: Sculcoates Sub District: Hessle Parish: Willerby Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Railway Cottages, Willerby County: Yorkshire
HAIGH, John Head M 46 1825 Yorkshire HAIGH, Hannah Wife F 47 1824 Yorkshire HAIGH, Benjamin Son M 15 1856 Yorkshire HAIGH, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1859 Yorkshire HAIGH, Agnes Daughter F 8 1863 Yorkshire HAIGH, Alice Daughter F 4 1867 Yorkshire ....................
Maureen
~~~~~~~To Margee. Is it as hot up there as it is down here???
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9 Jul 2013 14:17 |
John & Hannah in 1851 with first child named Sarah:
1851 England Census about John Haigh Name: John Haigh Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Haigh Gender: M (Male) Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: York St Saviour County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: York Sub-registration District: Walmgate ED, institution, or vessel: 5c Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 179 Piece: 2355 Folio: 237 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age John Haigh 26 Hannah Haigh 27 Sarah Haigh 6 Mary Haigh 4 Margaret Haigh 1
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9 Jul 2013 13:55 |
I have just found this Maureen, it would offer the connection to Hull that I formally could not understand-
John Haigh (son of Abraham Haigh and Sarah Bywater) was born 05 Nov 1824 in Clifton, Yorkshire, and died 10 Dec 1894 in 610 Hessle Rd, Newington, Hull. He married Hannah Carr on 09 Sep 1843 in St Margaret, York, Yorkshire, daughter of Benjamin Carr and Agnes Bailey.
However the site only mentions Hannah and John having one child by the name of Sarah b. 23 Feb 1845, 152 Walmgate, Parish of St Margaret, York, Yorkshire, d. 11 Jun 1917, 9 Newmarket St, Grimsby. This does not fit.
The plot thickens! I will keep you updated :-D
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9 Jul 2013 13:35 |
I will Maureen, thanks for help. XX :-)
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9 Jul 2013 12:56 |
Well,I hope it's her! :-)
It looks to me as though the people with the tree on Ancestry have gotten her mixed up with a Hannah Jane HAIGH (daughter of Ben and Elizabeth) who goes on to marry an Isaac BOWER in Cheshire.
Would you let us know when you get the marriage cert please? I always like to know "the ending"....or should that be the beginning??? :-D
Good luck,
Maureen
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9 Jul 2013 12:35 |
I think you are right, this is definitely Hannah at the age of 6.
Thank you Maureen.
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9 Jul 2013 11:58 |
The marriage cert is the way to go but I would have bet on her being this person: 1861 Name: John Haigh Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Hannah Haigh Gender: Male Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hull Holy Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 135 Piece: 3597 Folio: 13 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age John Haigh 36 Hannah Haigh 37 Francis Haigh 9 >>Hannah Haigh 6 born York Benjamin Haigh 4 Elizabeth Haigh 2 Henry Haigh 1 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3597; Folio: 13; Page: 22; GSU roll: 543159.
Maureen
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9 Jul 2013 01:46 |
Thank you Kath and Margee :-)
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9 Jul 2013 01:28 |
I wonder if Clifton was formally an area within Holmfirth. I have checked on the internet and Holmfirth is in Yorkshire. all of these things were often confused by the enumerators entry.
You definitely both have the right person. As you say I need to view the marriage certificate.
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9 Jul 2013 01:22 |
In 1891 census she says born Clifton:
1891 England Census about Hannah Benson Name: Hannah Benson Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William W Benson Gender: Female Where born: Clifton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Kingston County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3940 Folio: 112 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age William W Benson 47 Hannah Benson 38 John W Benson 14 Hannah M Benson 12 Sarah F Benson 6 Thomas H Benson 3
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9 Jul 2013 01:18 |
If she was born in Holmfirth why would she say on the census that she was born in Clifton?
The York registration district on the birth above would cover Clifton.
However if the the tree on Ancestry is correct then this could be a birth at the right time in Holmfirth:-
Name: HAIGH, Hannah Registration district: Huddersfield County: Yorkshire Year of registration: 1853 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 9A Page no: 237
Personally I would go with the York birth, but first of all I would buy the marriage certificate. It is definitely in the index for 1887, so if they have the date wrong in the Ancestry tree then other things may also be wrong.
Kath. x
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9 Jul 2013 01:16 |
Is this them in 1881? But says Hannah born York.
1881 England Census about Hannah Benson Name: Hannah Benson Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William W. Benson Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: 3 Granville Ter Condition as to marriage: Married Registration District: Hull Sub-registration District: Myton ED, institution, or vessel: 71 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4778 Folio: 65 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age William W. Benson 38 Hannah Benson 28 John W. Benson 4 Hannah M. Benson 2
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9 Jul 2013 01:12 |
Thanks Margee, that also looks like a definite hit! :-)
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