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MISSING DAVIS FAMILY

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Walter

Walter Report 14 Jul 2013 15:18

Have located my Great Grandfather BARNETT DAVIS and his Family on the 1871 CENSUS For BIRMINGHAM-ST THOMAS (Ref RG10 Folio15 Piece 3097) and after that absolutely no trace.
Has anyone seen this Family on any subsequent Census anywhere.?

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Jul 2013 15:20

Hi Walter and welcome to GR message boards.

Posting for ref

Barnell Davis 40
Anne Davis 34
Jacob Davis 46 (16 on image)
Anna Davis 40 (10 on image
Mosa Davis 7
Barnett Davis 2 Born Sunderland

All born Poland except Barnett jnr


Andy

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 15:20

Just for ref

1871 England Census about Barnett Davis
Name: Barnett Davis
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Barnell Davis
Mother's Name: Anne Davis
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration District: Birmingham
Sub-registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household Schedule Number: 109
Piece: 3097
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Barnell Davis 40
Anne Davis 34
Jacob Davis 46
Anna Davis 40
Mosa Davis 7
Barnett Davis 2

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 15:30

?

Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%)
DAVIS Barnett Birmingham 6d 329
Myers Esther Birmingham 6d 329

Andrew

Andrew Report 14 Jul 2013 15:30

Who and when did Barnett marry?

Andy

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 15:37

Is this the marriage of Barnett

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Davis Barnett C Strong Birmingham S. 6d 472

Strong Agnes L Davis Birmingham S. 6d 472

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jul 2013 15:49

Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)
DAVIS Barnett C STRONG Oxford 3a 1622
Strong Agnes L Davis Oxford 3a 1622

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 14 Jul 2013 15:50

Was there a change of name(s) along the way?

Sorry-but if you see them in 1871 and then you don't see them again.......how do you know that they are "yours"?

Maureen

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 15:54

Doesn't help but I wonder if this is Jacob in 1881? Son is transcribed as Bennett but I am sure it is Barnett...named for his uncle and grandfather?

1881 England Census about Jacob Davies
Name: Jacob Davies
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Davies
Gender: Male
Where born: (Bs), Poland
Civil Parish: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 Berkeley St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Coat Maker
Registration District: Prestwich
Sub-registration District: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4020
Folio: 21
Page Number: 35
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Davies 30
Annie Davies 30
Abraham Davies 9
Morris Davies 7
Bennett Davies 4 <<<<Barnett
Soloman Clanisblat 22
Jane Benjiman 16
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Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 16:06

bear with me...re the Jacob Davis in Cheetham Lancs, and the marriage in 1874 of Barnett Davis to Esther ...maybe there was a name change?


1881 England Census about Barnett Price
Name: Barnett Price
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther Price
Gender: Male
Where born: (B S), Poland
Civil Parish: Cheetham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Whitfield St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Tailor
Registration District: Prestwich
Sub-registration District: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4022
Folio: 81
Page Number: 63
Household Members:
Name Age
Barnett Price 46
Esther Price 40
Sarah Price 20
Harris Price 16
Moses Price 14
Anne Price 11
Isaacher Price 8
Ada Price 4
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wisechild

wisechild Report 14 Jul 2013 16:09

Looks like they were a Jewish family, judging by the names & the link to Cheetham, Manchester which was a Jewish area.
Davis is probably an anglicised version of a Polish name.
The synagogue in Birmingham has been in existence for many years. Might be worth seeing if you can find anything in their records to point you in the right direction.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jul 2013 16:25

The three children shown in 1881 are all recorded as being born in Manchester

The youngest's birth - at least - should, by law, have been registered....I can find no record

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 16:28

?

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)

Davis Mosca Walsall 6b 1065 <<<<<
DAVIS Moses Walsall 6b 1065 <<<<<<<
DENHAM Joshua Harry Walsall 6b 1065
Woolley Florence Jane Walsall 6b 1065
Wright Charlotte Walsall 6b 1065

EDIT NO not this one....

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Jul 2013 16:28

In 1871, the surname is recorded as Davies............with the 'e' being crossed out

Barnett snr and Jacob are Glaziers

............a far cry from the occ of the Jacob shown in 1881...........

wisechild

wisechild Report 14 Jul 2013 16:46

Also on the 1871 the place of birth has been transcribed as Ireland for all the adult.
Original clearly says Poland which at that time would be part of Russia.
There is a marriage in Birmingham 2nd quarter 1874 for Barnett Davis to Esther Myers.
Presumably Anne died, but looking for a death for the correct Anne Davis in Birmingham would be a bit of a problem.
Must admit I was a bit surprised that the occ was glazier. Would have expected them to be employed in the clothing industry.

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 16:48

If they'd just arrived in England they may have put down whatever work they knew? or indeed the enumerator might have misheard 'Glaziers' for 'tailors'...it's not a leap with a Polish accent?

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 16:48

If they'd just arrived in England they may have put down whatever work they knew? or indeed the enumerator might have misheard 'Glaziers' for 'tailors'...it's not a leap with a Polish accent?

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 16:50

We really need Walter back for info :-)

1911 England Census about Barnett Price
Name: Barnett Price
Age in 1911: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Russia Poland
Civil Parish: North Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 99 Heywood St Cheetham Manchester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Retiver Tailor
Registration District: Prestwich
Registration District Number: 467
Sub-registration District: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 24180
Household Members:
Name Age
Barnett Price 72
Esther Price 66
Ada Price 33
Isaac Price 29

There is no obvious marriage for a Barnett Price to an Esther

Rambling

Rambling Report 14 Jul 2013 17:25

I hadn't noticed before but there are two marriage entries

Marriages Mar 1927 (>99%)
DAVIS Barnett C STRONG Oxford 3a 1622
Strong Agnes L Davis Oxford 3a 1622

Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Davis Barnett C Strong Birmingham S. 6d 472

Strong Agnes L Davis Birmingham S. 6d 472

greyghost

greyghost Report 14 Jul 2013 18:20

Have messaged Walter on how to return to the thread.