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safc

safc Report 25 Aug 2013 22:09

Name: Francis Acril
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Petchel
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 27 Dec 1827
Event Place: North Somercotes,Lincoln,England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03060-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 508040
Reference ID:

safc

safc Report 25 Aug 2013 22:04

Name: Robinson Acril
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Oct 1828
Christening Place: NORTH SOMERCOTES,LINCOLN,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Francis Acril
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03060-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 508040
Reference ID:

safc

safc Report 25 Aug 2013 22:00

Name: Robinson Ackrill
Birth Date: 1827
Birthplace:
Age: 25
Spouse's Name: Betsy Winn
Spouse's Birth Date: 1829
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 23
Event Date: 1852
Event Place: Horncastle, Lincoln, England
Father's Name: Francis Ackrill
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: William Winn
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01191-7
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1542141

safc

safc Report 25 Aug 2013 21:43

Name: William Ackrill
Birth Date: 1856
Birthplace:
Age: 29
Spouse's Name: Annie Binstead
Spouse's Birth Date: 1864
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 21
Event Date: 17 Oct 1885
Event Place: Holy Savior, Hitchin, Hertford, England
Father's Name: Robinson Ackrill
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: James Binstead
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15735-1
System Origin: England-VR
GS Film number: 1040812
Reference ID: 2:3FD4KZP

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 25 Aug 2013 21:38

1891 confirms the Ackrill Binstead marriage

Name:William Ackrill
[William Sewer]
Age:37
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1854
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name: Annie Ackrill
[Emma K Ackrill]
Mother's Name: Betsy Ackrill
Gender:
Male
Where born:Northampton
Civil Parish:St Peter at Gowts
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Lincoln
County/Island:
Lincolnshire Country:
England
Street Address:
Occupation:
condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
Registration District: Lincoln
Sub-registration District: Lincoln Home ED,
institution, or vessel:12a Piece:2591 Folio:34
Page Number:
59
Household Members:
Name Age

William Ackrill 37
Annie Ackrill 28
Betsy Ackrill 63
James Binstead 20 Relation: Wife's Brother (Brother-in-law)
Emma K Ackrill 30
Eveline A Ackrill 10
Winifred M Ackrill 8
Louis J Ackrill 6
Beatrice M Ackrill 4
Junita Ackrill 3
Ethel Kassell 18 Relation: Cousin

Roy

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 25 Aug 2013 21:29

This looks like it could be Annie in 1911
Name: Annie Achrill
Age in 1911: 46
Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation to Head: Nurse
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish:Ecclesfield
County/Island:
Yorkshire-West Riding
Country:
England
Street Address: Worrall Rd Wadsley Sheffield
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Monthby Nurse
Registration District: Wortley
Registration District Number: 508
Sub-registration District:
Ecclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Piece: 27678
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Yarrow 29
Ethel Mary Yarrow 28
William Yarrow 1
Sylvia Mary Yarrow 1/12
Annie Achrill 46 Image looks like Ackrill

She is down as widow but married 25 years had 5 children 4 died and one still living

Roy

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 25 Aug 2013 20:13

I wondered how Phyllis was a niece on the 1911 census

This is the marriage of her aunt and uncle.

Name: Albert Edward Dixon
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1887
Registration District: Biggleswade
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 437
Records on Page:
Name
Selina Binstead

This is them on the 1891 census before they moved up to Sheffield

Name: Albert E Dixon
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selina Dixon
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Arlesey
Ecclesiastical parish: Arlesey
Town: Arlesey
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Biggleswade
Sub-registration District: Biggleswade
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1256
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Dixon 27
Selina Dixon 22
Charlotte A Dixon 3

I then wondered if Selina had a sister who could have married an Ackrill, I found this wedding

Name: ACKRILL, William
Registration district: Hitchin
County: Hertfordshire
Year of registration: 1885
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 3A
Page no: 605
Marriage Finder: William Ackrill married one of the following people:

BANKS, Mary Ann
BINSTEAD, Annie
BARBER, George Augustus


1871 census shows that Selina did have a sister Anne
Name: Selina Binstead
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Binstead
Mother's Name: Charlotte Binstead
Gender: Female
Where born: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Hitchin
Town: Hitchin
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Hitchin
Sub-registration District: Hitchin
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 190
Piece: 1368
Folio: 43
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
James Binstead 45
Charlotte Binstead 39
Harriot Binstead 11
Anne Binstead 7
Selina Binstead 5
James Binstead 1 Month

Here is Selina's sister Annie who has also moved up to Yorkshire

1901 census
Name: Annie Hekrill (The image is Ackrill)
[Annie Ackrill]
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Hekrill
Gender: Female
Where born: Hitchin, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Attercliffe cum Darnall
Ecclesiastical parish: Carbrook St Bartholomew
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration District: Sheffield
Sub-registration District: Attercliffe
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household Schedule Number: 10
Piece: 4382
Folio: 57
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hekrill 47 a blacksmith b Northampton c1854
Annie Hekrill 37
Alice Enderby 3 visitor b Lincoln

Notice that the Ecclesiastical parish: is Carbrook St Bartholomew and Carbrook was given as Phyllis's birthplace in 1911

It looks like her farther then died
Civil Registration event: Death

Name: ACKRILL, William
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1905
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 50
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 392

I can’t see her presumed mother Annie on the 1911 census, I wondered if she had remarried because she was 10 years younger than her husband. I found this marriage, but of course it may not be her and it is after the census
Civil Registration event: Marriage

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Name: ACKRILL, Annie
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 1135
Marriage Finder: Annie Ackrill married one of the following people:

OATES, Walter
RICHMOND, William J
GOSNEY, Martha


All of this is conjecture of course, you need the marriage certificate of your grandparents which will give her fathers name so you can see if it does match up

Matt

Matt Report 25 Aug 2013 11:23

Thanks again.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Aug 2013 11:13

As you're new poster, do you know where to get certificates from?

Although you can get them from the issuing Register Office, the only online site you should use is

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Each certificate will cost £9.25 using a debit or credit card and includes 2nd class P&P.
Use the references provided on the thread which were orriginally found on the GRO indexes.

If you purchase from Sheffield Regiter Office, they have a different system of numbering and might cost a bit more. Year, quarter and name should suffice to help them track down the correct certificate

Matt

Matt Report 25 Aug 2013 11:04

Thank you very much. The birth was correct, so you are saying that it as the first census you provided. That she wasn't living with her parents as it states she was a niece. So as advised I need get copies of either birth or marriage certificate to ascertain parents .
Matt

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 25 Aug 2013 10:40

This would be your grandfathers death

Name: BENTON, John Richard
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1996
Month of registration: August
Date of birth: 25 March 1902
District no: 0481G
Reg no: G52A
Ent no: 147
DOR: 896

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 25 Aug 2013 10:39

Is this the death of your grand mother? if it is it gives her date of birth

Name: BENTON, Phyllis
Registration district: Sheffield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1994
Month of registration: November
Date of birth: 30 August 1902
District no: 0481H
Reg no: H59A
Ent no: 029
DOR: 1194


In that case the birth registration would be the first one found

Name: Phyllis Ackrill
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration District: Sheffield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 683

Assuming the date of birth on the burial was correct, they had 6 weeks to register the birth, so that could take it into the Oct-Dec period of 1902

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 24 Aug 2013 23:26

Welcome to the boards Matt.

I am pleased we didn't scare you off with all the deleting and which board to post on.

Prickles. :-)

Matt

Matt Report 24 Aug 2013 23:16

Thank you very much for your time. I will follow up accordingly.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2013 23:13

Hi Matt, as you've seen from the census there are two very strong contenders and it would be very easy to follow the wrong branch.

To be sure of the right line you need Phyllis' marriage certificate to see who it names as her father. The details are posted above. You can order a copy from GRO for £9.25
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Aug 2013 23:13

In that case you will need to buy their marriage certificate so you can know for certain who the fathers are before you go backwards

The only way not to buy it would be to visit the records office in Sheffield and to look through the church records on micro film for June to Sept 1930 assuming you could guess which church it was

Matt

Matt Report 24 Aug 2013 23:07

She married John Richard Benton.
They lived in Hillsborough.

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Aug 2013 23:05

The only Sheffield marriage I can see is the one I posted.If that is the correct marriage then buying that certificate will give her fathers name,so he would know which 1911 family is the correct one

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Aug 2013 23:02

So I suppose it could be either one?

LindainHerriotCountry

LindainHerriotCountry Report 24 Aug 2013 23:00

I had just picked that other family up in 1901

1901 census transcription details for: 7, Birch Road, Attercliffe Cum Darnall

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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4383
Folio: 157
Page: 23
Reg. District: Sheffield
Sub District: Attercliffe
Parish: Attercliffe cum Darnall
Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: Attercliffe Emmanuel
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 7, Birch Road, Attercliffe Cum Darnall
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ACKRILL, Robert Head Married M 65 1836 Bricklayer
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
ACKRILL, Annie Wife Married F 55 1846
Hull, Yorkshire
ACKRILL, William Son Single M 35 1866 Varnish Maker
Grimsby, Lincolnshire
ACKRILL, Ada Daughter Single F 19 1882
Sheffield, Yorkshire