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Hope someone can help me try and find my husbands grandad. All we know is he was born 12/12/1889 somewhere in london. He died june 1970 in Bristol, Gloucestershire. He was a buyer for Bentalls in London and met his 'wife' there . There is no marriage record and my mother in law thinks they never actually married. No talk of wedding or photos ever. They had 3 kids and moved to Bristol which is where the family still remain. No one seems to know much about him attall. Would appreciate any help. I can't find his birth record on ancestry. Thank you..jane.

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Wilson James Fraser Camberwell 1d 8_0

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Name: James F Wilson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Camberwell, London
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Lewisham
Sub-District: Sydenham
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Michaels & All Angels With Christ Church
Civil Parish: Lewisham
District/Parish/County: London, Middlesex

Thank you very much for finding this info for me. We never knew which part of London he came from. Thank you. What football club is your safc btw? Jane..

James Fraser Wilson
Age:11
Birth Date:12 Dec 1889
School:Hither Green School
Borough:Lewisham
Admission Date:2 Dec 1901
Parent:James

Address looks like 64 Laleham Road - but not clear

Notes:
Hither Green School (0665) opened in 1885

Reference Number:
LCC/EO/DIV07/HIT/AD/002

James F Wilson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Wilson
Mother's Name: Bessie E Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, London, England
Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Angels, Christchurch, and St Michael
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Lewisham
Sub-registration District: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 279
Piece: 556
Folio: 53
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
James Wilson 50 (Born Scotland) commercial traveller, drapery
Bessie E Wilson 36 (Stone Ferry, Norfolk)
Dorothy Wilson 13 (Dulwich)
James F Wilson 11
Harry Wilson 6 (Brixham) - but this is a girl, I think Mary

James F Wilson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Wilson
Mother's Name: Bessie E Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lewisham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviours
Town: Forest Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Lewisham
Sub-registration District: Sydenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 525
Folio: 155
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
James Wilson 40
Bessie E Wilson 26
Dorothy Wilson 3
James F Wilson 1

On second thoughts, the youngest child could be Marj?

Bessie Ellen Wilson
Age in 1911: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stoke Ferry, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 63 Coldershaw Rd,West Ealing W
Marital Status: Single (XX states widow on image)
Occupation: House Keeper
Registration District: Brentford
Registration District Number: 128
Sub-registration District: Brentford
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Household Schedule Number: 138
Piece: 6905
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Fielder 57
Bessie Ellen Wilson 46
Marjory Wilson 16

Bessie has had 4 children, 1 had died.

Could you say who his 'wife' was?
Thank-you

Think this may be him, still single:

James Wilson
Age in 1911:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1888
Relation to Head:Boarder
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Surrey, England (Forest Hill on image)
Civil Parish:Fulham
County/Island:London
Country:England
Street Address:66 Clonmel Rd, Fulham
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:SHOP WALKER
egistration District:Fulham
Registration District Number:3
Sub-registration District:South Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel:1
Piece:338
Household Members:
Name
Age
Hubert W Churchill 29 (shop assistant, drapery)
Kathleen J L Churchill 23
Josephine W M Churchill 1
James Wilson 23 (shop walker, drapery)

Thank you to all of you for your help, it is much appreciated. My mother in law will be thrilled. His death cert got thrown away when her mum died and their flat was cleared out. This is him as he worked in the drapery haberdashery trade for years, thats where he met his wife, she was from Norfolk. But, as i say, there is no talk or record of them actually getting married.ans all we knew was he came from London and met her in the west end. Could have been anywhere in London. Thank you all..

If you let us have his "wife's" name as Pat asked, we may find a marriage - you never know, multiple pairs of eyes! ;-)

Can i ask how you found him on the 1911 census? I couldnt find him last night. I presumed he had left home and was lodging somewhere by age 21. Im now going to try and find where in Scotland his father came from.. thanks again..jane.

The 1911 is for James Wilson and birth year of 1888 from Surrey.

So if you were looking for James Fraser Wilson born 1890 from London, you would not have found him.

It is the shop walker, drapery that is presumably the clincher, as there are many James Wilsons around.

Found him on ancestry, just hover over the name and it displays the summary - I was looking for a shop worker of some sort, and probably a boarder as he wasn't with his mother.

Yes, James Wilson is a common. Name, thats why i wasnt sure which one he was. But the drapery business clinches it for sure. His partner was Hannah Paul, born 1902, from Denver Norfolk. We have found her and her family but no marriage record for them...

So this is her death, and children registered under Wilson/Paul?
Hannah Wilson
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1902
Date of Registration: Mar 1988
Age at Death: 85
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 22
Page: 710

Yes thats her. She died March 1988 and was born 1902. Thank you..

Possible marriage for James and Bessie:


Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)
HIGGS Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 809 Scan available - click to view
*****NURSE Bessie Ellen Lambeth 1d 809 Scan available - click to view
Whiskard Reginald Lambeth 1d 809 Scan available - click to view
******WILSON James Lambeth 1d 809 Scan available - click to view

Bessie In 1881:

1881 England Census
about Bessy Nurse
Age:16
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1865
Relationship to Head:Apprentice
Gender:Female
Where born:Stoke Ferry, Norfolk, England
Civil Parish:Mundford
County/Island:Norfolk
Country:England
Occupation:Grocers Apprentice

Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Fielder William H Wilson Brentford 3a 362
WILSON Bessie E Fielder Brentford 3a 362

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: James Fraser Wilson
Year: 1927
County or Borough: Lambeth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Lambeth
Street Address: 11 Brading Road.
(also, Bessie Ellen Fielder)

(if relating)

Chris :)

edits (at same address, 1931, 32, 33, Bessie Ellen also)