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GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Aug 2013 23:22

Name: Harriet Hannah Nunn
Birth Year: abt 1906
Marriage or Bann Date: 24 Dec 1925
Parish: South Kirkby, All Saints
Father's Name: Amos Arthur Nunn - miner
Spouse's Name: Benjamin Exley
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjamin Exley


104 Clifford St.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Aug 2013 23:22

Gatelady

Are you saying that the Amos who is on the 1911 census aged 1 was your grandfather?

If so then I can't understand that because there is this death in 1911 just after the census was taken:-

Name: NUNN, Amos
Registration district: Hemsworth
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1911
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 1
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 256

I can't find the birth of another Amos Nunn in Yorkshire after that date.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 30 Aug 2013 23:24

Well done GlitterBaby - that confirms that Harriet was the child of Amos Arthur without having to buy the birth certificate.

Kath. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Aug 2013 23:26

This is the 1925 marriage for Benjamin and Harriet:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Benjamin Exley (21)miner of 108 Clifford Street
Birth Year: abt 1904
Marriage or Bann Date: 24 Dec 1925
Parish: South Kirkby, All Saints
Father's Name: Benjamin Exley - deceased
Spouse's Name: Harriet Hannah Nunn (19) - of 104 Clifford Street
Spouse's Father's Name: Amos Arthur Nunn - miner

Neither previously married.

Witnesses: Clifford Fenton and Winnifred Thornley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Aug 2013 23:28

WW1 Medal Card - poss

Name: Amos A Nunn
Regiment or Corps: Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire Regiment, Labour Corps
Regimental Number: 34899, 116554


Silver war Badge

Name: Amos A. Nunn
Discharge Unit: Labour Corps
Regiment Number: 116554
Rank: Pte
Badge Number: B252213
Unit: Labour Corps (Nottingham)
Piece: 3201
List Number: LC 4501-4900
Record Group: WO
Record Class: 329


Enlisted 29.3.15
Discharged 26.2.19

patchem

patchem Report 30 Aug 2013 23:33

Gatelady,
Can you give us your grandfather's marriage and the birth of his son or daughter who is your parent?
Thanks

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Aug 2013 23:34

Name: Arthur Amos Nunn
Birth Year: abt 1886
Parish: South Elmsall, St Mary the Virgin
Burial Date: 2 Sep 1946
Burial Age: 60

gatelady

gatelady Report 31 Aug 2013 19:28

Taking on board all your advice, I have found marriage cert for Harriet Hannah b 1906 and Benjamin Exley b 1904, this gives her fathers name- Amos Arthur Nunn, I think that Arthur had Harriet Hannah before he married Elizabeth Williams Hanson, as far as I can make out, but, Dolly was supposed to have been born 1925, the mind boggles to say the least, but at least you have all given me important info for my family tree.
Pam :-D :-S

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 31 Aug 2013 20:27

Pam, Harriet Hannah was born AFTER Amos Arthur and Elizabeth married:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Amos Nunn
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1905
Registration District: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 86

Records on Page:
Name
**Elizabeth Williams Hanson
**Amos Nunn


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harriet Hannah Nunn
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1906
Registration District: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 50


(We'd already posted Harriet Hannah's marriage?)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2013 20:28

The marriage of Amos Arthur Nunn to Elizabeth Williams Hanson was in 1905 and Harriet Hannah wasn't born until 1906, so she wasn't born before the marriage.

I think you would need to buy Harriet's death certificate to see what the cause of death was to see if this is the person you thought might have gassed herself.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 Aug 2013 20:29

SNAP, MarieCeleste!!

Kath. x

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

gatelady

gatelady Report 1 Sep 2013 00:48

Kathlleen Bell, I have Nunn William's born 1910, seems that he was born to my grandmother Elizabeth Williams Hanson, ?? did she have him out of wedlock, or is he child of my grandfather Amos Arthur Nunn, the mind boggles, our family tree's are so frustrating to say the least, specially when cousins marry cousins, and born out of wedlock :-S
Pam, nee Nunn

gatelady

gatelady Report 1 Sep 2013 01:00

Ok Kathleenbell, this is true, no, Harriet was born within wedlock, I cannot find on any census records GRRR so frustrated, I do thank you all for taking interest though, :-)
Pam x

gatelady

gatelady Report 1 Sep 2013 01:41

Ok, my father was Douglas Nunn b 1919 , son of Amos Arthur Nunn and Elizabeth Williams Hanson b 1888, sharleston Wakefield, my mother was Pamela Ruth Clamp. my father, his mother Elizabeth Williams Hanson, she died, Amos Arthur Nunn took on a housekeeper, Doris Browne, her husband was Edward Pinkney, he died, Doris was born in Africa ( don't know what part of Africa) but, Doris parents where religious pioneers who built a house in Africa, and owned slaves, apparently, Doris Browne should have been on the ship Titanic, for some reason, her family did not board the Titanic, do not know why ?, but Doris came to England (though she was a white and british) she managed to come across my grandfather Amos Arted out to me, hur Nunn, Amos took her in as housekeeper, cos my dad was the oldest in the family, he had to miss on his education because he had to look after the other members of the family, so my dad did not have a life, hence, housekeeper, Doris Browne, but, they had children, out of wedlock, i.e, my aunt Doris, my dads half sister who has been giving me info, about Dolly Nunn, and her hubby Benny Exley, which you have already pointed out to me, is not to be, my aunt Doris belongs to Doris Browne, my father's half sister. but I have sorted my family tree out now regarding Benjamin Exley with thanks to you all xx

patchem

patchem Report 1 Sep 2013 07:54

You have your Father as Douglas, born 1919, son of Elizabeth Williams Hanson, but her maiden name was Williams, surely?

Births Jun 1919
Nunn Douglas Williams Hemsworth 9c 232

and these are his siblings?
Births Jun 1914
NUNN Arthur Williams Hemsworth 9c 397
Births Mar 1923
Nunn Albert Williams Hemsworth 9c 296
Births Mar 1926
Nunn Kenneth Williams Hemsworth 9c 294

This is the only Nunn/Brown showing born Hemsworth - your aunt?
Births 1933
NUNN Doris Brown Hemsworth

patchem

patchem Report 1 Sep 2013 08:11

This family, the census says William(s) as surname for Hannah, Elizabeth and the younger Samuel, but then dau and son for children, so have been given the surname Hanson by the transcriber?

1891 England Census
Elizabeth Hanson [Elizabeth Williams] Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel Hanson
Gender: Female Where born: Thorp Arch, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Ossett Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration District: Dewsbury Sub-registration District: Ossett
ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 3739 Folio: 58 Page Number: 6
Samuel Hanson 32 scavenger
Hannah Williams 26 rag sorter
Elizabeth Hanson 3
Samuel Hanson 10/12
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3739; Folio: 58; Page: 6; GSU Roll: 6098849.

Added:
Samuel Hanson
Birth Year: abt 1859
Age: 32
Marriage or Bann Date: 17 May 1891
Parish: Ossett and Gawthorpe, Holy and Undivided Trinity
Father's Name: Phileman Hanson
Spouse's Name: Hannah Williams
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Williams

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Sep 2013 10:58

Hi Pam

You say you can't find Harriet nunn on any census records but I have already posted the 1911 census record for her earlier. Here it is again (she is in hospital):-

1911 census transcription details for: Infections Diseases Hospital Belonging To The Hemsworth Rural District Council

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27529 RD506 SD2 ED1 SN118
Reg. District: Hemsworth
Sub District: Hemsworth Western
Parish: Brierley
Enum. District: 1

Address: Brierley Common Brierley Near Barnsley
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

NUNN, Harriet Patient F 4 1907 So Kirkby Yorkshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Sep 2013 11:04

Are you mixing up what is written on the birth index for the birth in 1910? The name is William Nunn - William being his first name and Nunn being his surname so he IS the son of Amos Arthur Nunn and born inside the marriage. It seems he dies in the same year and is probably the child mentioned on the 1911 census who has died.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Sep 2013 11:21

Elizabeth Williams Hanson seems to have started out as Elizabeth Williams and then taken on the Hanson name (probably when her mother married Samuel Hanson). Here she is in the 1891 census:-

1891 census transcription details for: Little Town End, Ossett With Gawthorpe, Ossett

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3739
Folio: 58
Page: 6
Reg. District: Dewsbury
Sub District: Ossett
Parish: Ossett with Gawthorpe
Enum. District: 10
Ecclesiastical District: Holy Trinity
City/Municipal Borough: Ossett

Address: Little Town End, Ossett With Gawthorpe, Ossett
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

HANSON, Samuel Head Single M 32 1859 Scavenger
Wakefield, Yorkshire
WILLIAMS, Hannah Visitor Single F 26 1865 Rag Sorter
Thorp Arch, Yorkshire
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 3 1888
Thorp Arch, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WILLIAMS, Samuel Son M 0 (10M) 1891
Thorp Arch, Yorkshire

Then this is the marriage of Samuel and Hannah:-


Name: HANSON, Samuel
Registration district: Dewsbury
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1891
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9B
Page no: 876

MarriageFinder: Samuel Hanson married one of the following people:

SPENCER, Emily
WILLIAMS, Hannah<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
COCKBURN, Henry Herbert

Elizabeth Williams Hanson probably started using the Hanson surname when her mother married Samuel but then when she had her children decided that she should give her proper maiden name when registering them (which was Williams).

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 1 Sep 2013 11:36

This looks like your grandmother's death:-


Name: NUNN, Elizabeth
Registration district: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1930
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 42
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 59

Kath. x