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Thank you so much everyone, It seems this man James Pookhurst,Lockhurst,Luckhurst,Lucas Gorham has intrigued you all too.
He has recorded a James Luckhurst occ Plasterer on the marriage cert, though I do realise that people often made up fathers rather than admit not having one.
I still would love to know why he called himself Gorham.

That's the one Dizzi, well found. I thought Pookhurst had to be a wrong transcription.

Now all we need to do is connect Mary Ann Luckhurst to James Gorham. I expect proving he was the father is nigh on impossible now. I doubt that any bastardy orders would still be around for that far back.

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mother: Mary Ann Lockhurst


Name James Lockhurst
Gender Male
Christening Date 08 Jul 1827
Christening Place Lenham, Kent, England
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Mary Ann Lockhurst
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Indexing Project (Batch) Number I05155-3
System Origin England-EASy
GS Film number 1786624
Reference ID item 1 p 116

This is a transcription from FMP. I wonder if there's an original copy to see anywhere. The name Pookhurst could possibly be a mistransciption of Luckhurst.

Transcription page details
Baptism Day:3
Baptism Month:Jul
Baptism Year:1827
Forename(s):James
Surname:Pookhurst
Father's Forename:
Mother's Forename:Mary An
Notes:Singlewoman
Place:Lenham
County:Kent
Record source:Kent Baptisms

He remarried a Jane and has a stepson who I think takes the Gorham name too. they really are a strange lot. The link to Genealogy forum above from Dizzi made interesting reading.

Very strange family some of his children stayed as lucas and others as Gorham

Isabella Sarah Lucas married William Harvey 1883 dad James Lucas one witness was Minnie Lucas.

Minnie Hannah Lucas married Thomas Aldous 1886 witness James Lucas.

Horace Taylor Lucas married 14/6/1880 Mary Ann Bradley,he is down as Harris Lucas in 1891

Walter George Gorham married Rose Tollhurst. 1890 in kent.George Frederick you have.

Death for Ann Gorham ?? J/A/S 1874 in Poplar.
Can't find James Lucas/Gorman in 1881.

Maryb.

Apparently Luckhurst is a variation of Lucas.

Maryb.

Just a thought but although Luckhurst and Lucas look very different written down they can sound very similar when you say them.

CHRISTINE IS THIS YOU
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-67461.html?s=817a91c5adc0b3c8fc88bd141ae56812

IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY IF YOURS BUT MAYBE WHY NAME CHANGE
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 about James Luckhurst
Name: James Luckhurst
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Date of Trial: 27 Jun 1848
Trial Year: 1848
Location of Trial: Kent, England
Sentence: Acquittal
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image

Did he have middle initial T as on son's Frederick James Gorham's marriage in 1866 it says J T Gorham.

Maryb

Thank you so much for all your help and advice.

James really seems to be dodging about with his surname, I would imagine they would ALL be family names as they are quite unusual... certainly not Smiths or something as popular. More and more parish records are becoming available on line, so fingers crossed it will only be a matter of time before your queries and frustrations are answered.

So it ties in nicely then, on the marriage certificate I thought it said Lathe ????? But wasn't sure. If Henry had died prior to her birth then having a name to use for her father would be an advantage, well why be an illegitimate child if you didn't have to be and Henry couldn't argue because he most probably wasn't alive. Just my theory. :-D

Hmmmm this is getting more interesting, just found a cert that I didn't know I had, a birth cert for my Great Grandfather Frederick James/Lucas, his mother is down as Ann Lucas formerly Taylor, the Ann Taylor that married James Luckhurst......... 1 year before. and the same Frederick that married Eliza Burling/Berling in the name of Gorham. what on earth did James do to be acting so furtive?????

Hi just realised that I have the birth cert(it as a good few years ago, when I got it) and it shows Henry occ a' Lath' something or other(unreadable) but giving impression he is alive like the marriage cert. mother Eliza formerly White.

Marriage certificates could easily be fudged and so often the father is listed on there and his death isn't noted...... What's even worse is when they state their father is deceased and he's not!!! The joys of the game.. tee hee. :-D

Hi Christine,

We really need to confirm the birth of Eliza jnr first, I think this is her registration of birth, hopefully it will state her mothers maiden name?


Name: Eliza Burling
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1848
Registration District: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 323


It was so common that names were spelt slightly differently, and I would think that it started as Burling and then just changed over a period of time due to accents and us mere common folk not being able to read and write back then.

Ah the death is isn't it....... he is on the marriage cert as Harry , I know that harry/Henry are same, but does not say deceased as is usual

Thanks , so do you think that the spelling of Burling as Berling twice is a double spelling mistake, should I record the mother Eliza White as her mother in my tree?