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4 Feb 2015 15:19 |
Sorry, I don't have credits for 192.com either!
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4 Feb 2015 10:55 |
I think I have found it thank you its in Wallsend.I will write a letter today.
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4 Feb 2015 10:35 |
Thank you so much it would take me ages to find out what you have in such a short space of time.I did go onto 192.com but you have to pay to look up the address.I will if I have to but could I be really cheeky and ask if you would kindly forward that address to me .If not I totally understand and I will do it. Again thanks for your help.Its my friends birthday today and I am wondering if this is his mother is she remembering back to his birth in 1957.
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4 Feb 2015 10:12 |
Further per 192.com - Julie Robinson was at the same address as Sheila Lee only on 2002 ER. Nichola Lee was at the same address as Sheila Lee only on 2004 ER. Sheila Lee is listed at that address in 2002-4, 2011, and 2014-15
Ancestry has the birth of a Nichola Lee, mms Power, born 1980 in the right area.
Good luck!
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4 Feb 2015 09:19 |
Hi there.Thanks for your reply Sheila Josephine Tweddle is her full name . The reason I left it on this thread was we had been told that his mother died in 2006.His adoption was organised through the catholic nuns who ran a home in the area and it was their reply stating she had died in 2006. I am really beginning to believe she is still alive as both deaths in 2006 do not tally up do they? I think you are right and I will tactfully right a letter.I did send one to her address on her marriage cert to John Tweddle as the ER shows Powers still living at that address.I only sent it yesterday so I may get a lead from there.
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1 Feb 2015 22:02 |
Frances, you'd really be better starting a new thread for this family on the "Find Living Relatives" board.
However -
Per Sheila's marriage to John Tweddle, her middle initial was J. Do you know what that stood for?
If she did leave John, as you suspect, there is a marriage between a Sheila J Tweddle and a Mr Lee in 1979 in North Tyneside West district. (I won't post it here in case she's still alive.)
So the Sheila Lee you found living with Julie Robinson could perhaps be the correct one. BUT the Sheila Lee with Julie Robinson appears to be on the 2014-15 ER, per 192.com, along with a Nichola Lee, aged 31-33. Have you tried contacting them - tactfully?
Is this the death you investigated? England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Sheila Lee Birth: 2 Nov 1941 Death: Nov 2006 - Newcastle/T, Tyne and Wear, England
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England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries Name: Sheila Tweddle Birth: 27 May 1936 Death: Jan 2006 - S Tyneside, Tyne and Wear, England
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1 Feb 2015 19:11 |
Thank you very much for helping me with my family and I have been able to delve deeper thanks to your help. I now have another request please. I am trying to help a dear friend who has MS was adopted and only found out recently when he emigrated to America that he was adopted .He is desperate to found out if anyone else in his family has a medical condition. He was born 4th Feb 1957 Robert Power mother Sheila Power .She married a John Joseph Tweddell/Tweddle 22/3/1958 gave birth to Micheal Tweddle 1958 and Julie M Tweddle in 1964. John died 7th sept 1997 his daughter Julie Margaret Robinson was the informant .We believe his mother has died in 2006 but the death cert I received doesnt tally up . I checked the electoral rolls and believe Sheila left her husband as it was their daughter who was the informant.I found a Sheila Lee living with a Julie Robinson at an Address in Wallsend Tyne and Wear. Her marriage cert also states she was 18yrs but we believe she was only 16 when she had Robert and Married and had Micheal the same year. What a mess!!!!Can anyone help as we are really desperate to find a relative?
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4 Nov 2013 17:27 |
PM received from Frances, copied here with her permission:
Just to let you know that with your help I sent away for the birth cert and confirmed the parents were correct then only this week end I received the death cert also confirming that I had found my grandfathers older brother who did die in Leavesden mental asylum aged18 years.I am still going up to the London Metropolitan Archives in London to confirm when he entered the asylum and hopefully see why he wasn't on the 1911 census.Prior to him being admitted to the hospital he was a resident at Woburn Lodge Upper Woburn Place in London which it seems was also some type of home. Again many thanks for your help Frances
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22 Sep 2013 12:07 |
Well, he wasn't in Leavesden in 1911 - I've scrolled through the many pages of the image on Ancestry, and he's not there.
Here's a random patient whose details will let you find the record on Ancestry (include X as birthplace) in case you want to check the image yourself:
1911 England Census about Thomas Adams Name: Thomas Adams Age in 1911: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation to Head: Patient Gender: Male Birth Place: X Civil Parish: Watford County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: District Imbeale Asylnn Leanesden, Kings Langley, Herts Registration District: Watford Registration District Number: 140 Sub-registration District: Abbots Langley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 7739
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22 Sep 2013 10:29 |
There is the possibility that he is an inmate in 1911 and is showing under his initials, or partial initials if badly transcribed. Comes out of hospital but then re-admitted in 1917
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22 Sep 2013 09:09 |
I am overwhelmed with everyones input thank you all so much.I have found it quite difficult to trace as I cant understand why he doesn't show on the 1911 census although we believe him to be in the Leavesden asylum Abbots Langley Watford due to him trying to put his youngest brother George born 1916 through a mangle!!! I have been to the site of the hospital which is now apartments and attended a talk and walk through the grounds but unfortunately most of the records are no longer available. Again thank you all and I will purchase the death cert as suggested
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21 Sep 2013 19:23 |
If I were Frances, I would buy the 1923 death cert.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Sep 2013 19:22 |
So just leaves Arthur Charles 1904 and he isn't showing on the 1911 census
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Sep 2013 19:20 |
George and Charles
1911 census transcription details for: 23 St Faiths Road S E
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG14PN2118 RG78PN73 RD25 SD5 ED19 SN2 Reg. District: Lambeth Sub District: Norwood Parish: Lambeth Enum. District: 19 Address: 23 St Faiths Road S E County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BRUNDLE, Frederick Head Married M 52 1859 Nail And Iron Merchant Wingham Kent BRUNDLE, Emily Wife Married 22 years F 50 1861 Dover Kent BRUNDLE, Frank Son Single M 20 1891 Nail And Iron Merchant Assistant Streatham Surrey BRUNDLE, Lucy Daughter Single F 18 1893 Streatham Surrey BRUNDLE, Frederick Son Single M 15 1896 School Norwood Surrey BRUNDLE, Herbert Son M 13 1898 School Norwood Surrey BRUNDLE, John Son M 11 1900 School Norwood Surrey BRUNDLE, Doris Daughter F 10 1901 School Norwood Surrey BRUNDLE, George Son M 8 1903 Norwood Surrey BRUNDLE, Charles Son M 7 1904 Norwood Surrey CLEAVER, Louisa Servant Single F 25 1886 Cook Domestic Sturry Kent CLEAVER, Annie Servant Single F 19 1892 Housemaid Domestic Sturry Kent CLEAVER, Lucy Servant Single F 17 1894 Nurse Domestic Sturry Kent
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21 Sep 2013 19:20 |
Arthur Brundle born 1910 Middlesborough - he's with his family in 1911 in Middlesborough:
1911 England Census about Arthur Brundle Name: Arthur Brundle Age in 1911: 11/12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Middlesbrough Civil Parish: Middlesbrough County/Island: Yorkshire-North Riding Country: England Street Address: 3 Boltons Yard Middlesbro Marital Status: Single Registration District: Middlesbrough Registration District Number: 535 Sub-registration District: Middlesbrough West ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 29271 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Brundle 34 S Brundle 38 Arthur Brundle 11/12 Florrie Eva Cowie 12 Margaret Ann Cowie 15
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Sep 2013 19:12 |
Robert Edward &Henry Oliver
1911 census transcription details for: 37 Chiddingstone Street New Kings Road Fulham SW
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG14PN354 RG78PN11 RD3 SD5 ED17 SN200 Reg. District: Fulham Sub District: South Fulham Parish: Fulham Enum. District: 17 Address: 37 Chiddingstone Street New Kings Road Fulham SW County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BRUNDLE, Robert Head Married M 35 1876 Insurance Agent Chelsea London BRUNDLE, Elizabeth Frances Wife Married 8 years F 33 1878 Pimlico London BRUNDLE, Robert Edward Son M 6 1905 Battersea London BRUNDLE, Henry Oliver Son M 4 1907 Wandsworth London BRUNDLE, William Son M 1 1910 Fulham London
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21 Sep 2013 19:10 |
Per FreeBMD, the only Arthur Brundle born in 1910 was this one:
Births Jun 1910 (>99%) BRUNDLE Arthur Middlesbro 9d 596
Doesn't seem likely, if Grace was born 1909 in London, and the family were in Cricklewood in 1911.
Perhaps the age at death in 1923 was transcribed wrongly onto the GRO index. OP suggests he died as a young man. If born in 1904, he'd have been 19.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Sep 2013 19:06 |
Frederick James and Ernest William are with their family on the 1911
1911 census transcription details for: Flat 31 Onslow Dwellings Pond Place Chelsea
Print Close National Archive Reference: RG14PN380 RG78PN12 RD4 SD1 ED6 SN922 Reg. District: Chelsea Sub District: Chelsea North Parish: Chelsea Enum. District: 6 Address: Flat 31 Onslow Dwellings Pond Place Chelsea County: London Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BRUNDLE, Frederick William Head Married 8 years M 32 1879 Motor Cleaner/ Washerat Garage/ Norfolk Roudham BRUNDLE, Florence Kate Wife Married F 33 1878 Cambridgeshire Ashley BRUNDLE, Frederick James Son M 7 1904 School London Clerkenwell BRUNDLE, Ernest William Son M 5 1906 School London Chelsea BRUNDLE, Edward John Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 London Chelsea
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21 Sep 2013 19:03 |
The child that died aged 13 in 1923 would have been born in 1910 so can't be the 1904 one
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21 Sep 2013 18:55 |
1891
Name: Grace Page Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Annie Page Gender: Female Where born: Clerkenwell, London, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Islington Sub-registration District: Islington South West ED, institution, or vessel: 26 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 154 Folio: 118 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Annie Page 35 Widow Henry Page 20 Ada Page 11 Florence Page 3 Grace Page 7 Lillie Page 3 Rose Page 1 Frederich Page 3/12 Frederich Lauard 27 Alfred Holman 26
Deaths Dec 1888 Page Alfred William 37 Islington 1b 267
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Name: Annie Sumfield Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Midsomer Norton, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration District: Islington Sub-registration District: Barnsbury ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 258 Piece: 177 Folio: 21 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Annie Sumfield 50 Widow Florence Page 19 Rose Page 11
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