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I am looking for the death of a relative of mine. Her name is Mary Jane Lee born 1865, possbly last known address Haslemere or near by. I know she was still alive in 1938.

Possible death:


Name:Mary J Lee
Birth Date:abt 1865
Date of Registration:Jun 1947
Age at Death:82
Registration District:Surrey North Western
Inferred County:Surrey
Volume:5g
Page:592

Thanks Lynne from up North, I'll check it out. Thanks again.

Hi Lynne, I've checked it out got the death cert but no not my relative.
:-|

Where was she born? And was it definitely in 1865?

What surname did she use in 1938?

Have you looked for her death yourself using freebmd?

Hi Reggie, I have searched everywhere. My great Grandmother was born in Poplar London 1865, married twice, the 2nd time to a William Lee & widowed in 1930 in Southampton. . Last address was in Portsmouth in 1938, where I believe she lived with her son Frederick Lee. No one has heard or seen anything of her since, No D.O.D. No cemetry records for portsmouth. I have dawn a complete blank. :-( :-(

I'm guessing this is her first marriage


Marriages Sep 1897
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HALL Mary Jane Portsea 2b 1070
UDALL Arthur Joseph Portsea 2b 1070



Do you have her full DOB, father and mother' including her maiden name?

Hi Gins, No her 1st marriage was to John Butlin. Her maiden name was ubsdell, We have ancestry tree but no-one knows what happened to her after 1938.

Marriages Mar 1907 (>99%)
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Lee William Portsmouth 2b 792
Stevens George Thomas Portsmouth 2b 792
U*LL Mary Jane Portsmouth 2b 792


Was this her marriage to William Lee, if so, she used her maiden name, which is how I got to the marriage I posted?

Parents please and full DOB if you have it

It's strange that she married her second husband still using her maiden name and not her first married name.

Kath. x

Could this be her death (the age is about right):-

Name: LEE, Mary J
Registration district: Andover
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1946
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 81
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 47

Kath. x

Is this Mary Jane in the 1911 census? :-

1911 census transcription details for: 38 Clifford Street

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN5972 RG78PN273B RD99 SD1 ED38 SN139
Reg. District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton Eastern
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 38

Address: 38 Clifford Street
County: Hampshire

Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

LEE, Mary Head Married F 43 1868 London
BUTLIN, Frederick Son Single M 23 1888 Steward Portsmouth Hants

It looks like her son Frederick was actually Frederick Butlin and not Frederick Lee.

Kath. x

Yes , she married william in 1907,in the name of Ubsdell, I have the marriage cert. widowed in 1930. Her 1st marriage was to Frederick John Butlin in 1884.

Hi Sheil

Please could you answer the above questions, it might help find her

Cheers

I'd say the death in 1946 in Hampshire is a pretty good bet.

Kath. x

1901 England Census

Name:Mary J Butlin

Age:35

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866

Relation:Wife

Spouse's Name:Frederick J Butlin <<<<<<<<<<<not John?

Gender:Female

Where born:
Poplar, London, England

Civil Parish:Portsmouth

Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephens

Town:Portsmouth

County/Island:Hampshire
Registration District:
Portsmouth

Sub-registration District:
North End and Buckland


Frederick J Butlin 36
Mary J Butlin 35
Mary E Butlin 15
Frederick W Butlin 14
Bertram G Butlin 11
Alfred J Butlin 10
Ernest G Butlin 9

This looks like Mary Jane with her grandparents in the 1871 census:-

1871 census transcription details for: Green Row, Portsmouth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1135
Folio: 60
Page: 34
Reg. District: Portsea Island
Sub District: Portsmouth Town
Parish: Portsmouth
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Portsmouth

Address: Green Row, Portsmouth
County: Hampshire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

UBSDELL, Richard H C Head M 59 1812 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Mary A Wife F 57 1814 Kent
UBSDELL, William G Son M 34 1837 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Thomas Son M 32 1839 Hampshire
UBSDELL, Mary J Granddaughter F 6 1865 Middlesex<<<<<<<<<<
YATES, Albert Servant M 16 1855 Hampshire
FORMAN, Sarah Servant F 20 1851 Hampshire

Kath. x

Yes all correct Kath, But don't know about andover, but I will check it out, I did see that one but thinking maybe get the DC if no one else in my family did. But thanks for your help, My great Grandmother Mary Jane is such a mystery.

This is odd???


1881 England Census

Name:
Frederick John Butler
[Frederick John Butlin]

Age:15

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1866

Relationship to Head:Step Son

Mother:Eliza Caroline Hubsdell


Where born:Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish:Portsea

County/Island:Hampshire

Street Address:52 Emanuel Street

Occupation:
Trade (Errand) Boy HMD YD

Registration District:Portsea Island

Sub-registration District:Kingston

ED, institution, or vessel:16

Piece:1141
Folio:141
Page Number:57


James Edward Hubsdell 46
Eliza Caroline Hubsdell 39
Walter Clark Hubsdell 21
John Edward Hubsdell 15
Henry Hubsdell 13
Edith Louisa Hubsdell 9
Albert Hubsdell 7
Frederick John Butler 15


Looking at a death for him, 1944 seems to be a match yet Mary Jane married again in 1907!!

Perhaps Frederick John Butler (or Butlin) was a cousin of Mary Jane Ubsdell. Cousins often married.

Kath. x