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PollySalt
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29 Sep 2013 13:09 |
Hi I have decided to take a little rest from researching my family and to try and trace some of my husbands ancestors. I am looking for an Mary Etheridge who married a George Lyes in Crewe Cheshire in the years 1886 to 1889 at St Paul's, Crewe. I have been trying to trace her birth which I believe to be in the Ombersley area of Worcestershire as my husband has rels in this area that he knew of and I my self went to visit them many years ago. I'm sorry for the lack of more information but its like trying to knit fog asking my husband to tell me what he knew and it appears they weren't that much of a close knit family.
Many thanks Polly
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Maddie
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29 Sep 2013 13:14 |
the marriage Name: George Lyes Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 08 Mar 1890 Event Place: St Paul, Crewe, Cheshire, England Gender: Male Age (Formatted): 27y Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Charles Lyes Mother's Name: Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Fairman Etheridge Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Father's Name: John Etheridge Spouse's Mother's Name: GS Film number: 1655856 Digital Folder Number: 004018336 Image Number: 00256
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MarieCeleste
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29 Sep 2013 13:14 |
Hi Polly, have you found them on later census to confirm her birthplace and when born?
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Astra
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29 Sep 2013 13:23 |
LYES, George Head Married M 28 1863 General Labourer Ombersley, Worcestershire VIEW LYES, Mary Wife Married F 30 1861 Rugby, Staffordshire VIEW LYES, Agnes Daughter F 0 (3M) 1891 Crewe, Cheshire VIEW Piece: 2852 Folio: 104 Page: 10 Registration District: Nantwich Civil Parish: Coppenhall Monks Municipal Borough: Crewe Address: 20, Albert Street, Coppenhall Monks, Crewe County: Cheshire
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Astra
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29 Sep 2013 13:28 |
FMP appears to be creaking under the strain at the moment so I cant confirm that Mary Etheridge was born in Staffordshire or even Warwickshire!
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:28 |
With his parents in 1871:
1871 England Census about George Lyes
Name: George Lyes Age:8 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1863 Relation:Son Father's Name:Charles Lyes Mother's Name:Ann Lyes Gender:Male Where born:Ombersley, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish:Ombersley Ecclesiastical parish:Worcester Town:Rax Charles Lyes 44 Ann Lyes 35 Emma Lyes 12 Mary A Lyes 10 George Lyes 8 Sarah A Lyes 5 John Packwood 25 William Watts 25
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Maddie
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29 Sep 2013 13:28 |
marriage cert will give her age and fathers occupation Name: Mary Ann F Etheridge Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1890 Registration District: Nantwich Inferred County: Cheshire Volume Number: 8a Page Number: 423 Records on Page: Name Mary Ann F Etheridge
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Choccy
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29 Sep 2013 13:28 |
Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Mary Ann Etheridge Fairman
Parish: Rugby
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1860
Father's Name: John Etheridge Fairman
Mother's Name: Ann Etheridge fairman
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:30 |
1891, Mary born Rugby, Staffs
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Choccy
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29 Sep 2013 13:32 |
mis-transcribed and David Mary should read David Henry!
1861
RG number: RG09 Piece: 2212 Folio: 81 Page: 17 Reg. District: Rugby Sub District: 1 Rugby Parish: Rugby Enum. District: 22 Ecclesiastical District: St Andrews City/Municipal Borough: Address: James Street, Rugby County: Warwickshire ESLEBRIDGE, John Head Married M 27 1834 Railway Clerk ..., Kent ESLEBRIDGE, Ann Wife Married F 38 1823 Stanley, Gloucestershire ROGERS, David Mary Son M 7 1854 Scholar Blackfield, Hampshire >>>>>ESLEBRIDGE, Mary Ann Daughter F 0 (8M) 1861 Rugby, Warwickshire
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:37 |
1871:
Name:Mary Etheridge Age:10 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1861 Relation:Daughter Father's Name:John Etheridge Mother's Name:Ann Etheridge Gender:Female Where born:Rugby, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish:Dartford Ecclesiastical parish:Canterbury Town:Dartford County/Island:Kent
John Etheridge 37 - railway porter, b Kent, Breukley? not clear Ann Etheridge 43b Stroud, Glos. David Rogers 16 son, b Hants, Backfield? Mary Etheridge 10 Louisa Etheridge 8 Eligh Martin 13 Mary Bennett 73
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:42 |
John and Ann's marriage:
Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%) Etheridge John Reading 2c 597 Scan available - click to view Rogers Ann Reading 2c 597 Scan available - click to view Rogers Anne Reading 2c 597
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:47 |
John in 1851?:
1851 England Census about John Fairman Name:John Fairman Age:17 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1834 Relation:Son Mother's Name:Ann Fairman Gender:M (Male) Where born:Brenchley, Kent, England Civil Parish:Brenchley County/Island:Kent Country:England
Ann Fairman 38 , wife, Ostler's wife John Fairman 17 son, Ostler's son Walter Fairman 14
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:51 |
Name: John Fairman
Age:7 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1834 Gender: Male Where born:Kent, England Civil Parish:Brenchley Hundred:Lathe of Aylesford Brenchley and Horsemonden
John Fairman 33 Ostler Ann Fairman 30 John Fairman 7 Waller Fairman 4
UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1956 about John Etheridge
Name: John Etheridge
Residence Date: Mar 1876
Station: Croydon
Company: London, Brighton and South Coast
Description: Traffic staff: register of appointments 1838 - 1879
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Potty
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29 Sep 2013 13:56 |
A tree on Ancestry has John b1834's parents as John Fairman and Ann Etheridge, m 1837, Tunbrigdge - no proof attached.
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Kucinta
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29 Sep 2013 19:26 |
Marriage in Familysearch, but at Brenchley in 1834:
Name: John Fairman<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Ann Etheridge<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 24 Aug 1834 Event Place: Brenchley,Kent,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 992457 Reference ID:
Looks like John c1834 was baptised four months before the wedding, as an Etheridge:
Name: John Etheridge<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Gender: Male Christening Date: 20 Apr 1834 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anne Etheridge<<<<<<<<<<< Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
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Kucinta
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29 Sep 2013 19:30 |
sibling Walter from Potty's 1851 and 1841:
Name: Walter Fairman Gender: Male Christening Date: 30 Oct 1836 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: John Fairman Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Ann Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
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Kucinta
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29 Sep 2013 19:47 |
Census 1861 shows both John Fairman and wife Ann nee Etheridge as born Brenchley, but the only baptism I can find is for John, who may or may not be the father of Ann's son John c1834.
Census 1861:
Address: Ferris, Ferris Row, Brenchley County: Kent
FAIRMAN, John Head Married M 52 1809 Yobbing Gardener Brenchley, Kent FAIRMAN, Ann Wife Married F 51 1810 Brenchley, Kent
John's possible baptism:
Name: John Fairman Gender: Male Christening Date: 13 Aug 1809 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Hannah Fairman Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
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Kucinta
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29 Sep 2013 19:54 |
Could this be Ann? Fits better with her age of 38 in Potty's 1851 census than it does with my 1861. I realise the spelling is Edderidge rather than Etheridge.
Name: Ann Edderidge Gender: Female Christening Date: 18 Jan 1813 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Arthur Edderidge Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
Marriage of the parents, variation in spelling again:
Name: Arthur Eddridge Birth Date: Birthplace: Age: Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hoadley Spouse's Birth Date: Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: Event Date: 26 Oct 1809 Event Place: Brenchley,Kent,England Father's Name: Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 992457 Reference ID:
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Kucinta
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29 Sep 2013 20:02 |
A couple more children for Arthur and Elizabeth:
Name: Arthur Edderidge Gender: Male Christening Date: 09 Dec 1810 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Arthur Edderidge Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizth. Hoadley Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
Name: John Edderidge Gender: Male Christening Date: 01 May 1814 Christening Place: BRENCHLEY,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Arthur Edderidge Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C13094-2 System Origin: England-ODM GS Film number: 0992456, 0992457 Reference ID:
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